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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Gee, I don't know. Why do rabbits keep allowing wolves to kill and eat them.
    A quaint analogy that has no relationship to the issue.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The level of excuse making is what is astonishing. In the spirit of one of yours, why do the countries keep allowing others to kick their legs out from under them?
    What the ****?

    Tell me what an unarmed 100 pounder is going to do to a 220 pound 7.5 foot tall giant with a belt-fed machine gun...

    And so, you become ignored for the rest of this thread until you can post something even slightly intelligent.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Gee, I don't know. Why do rabbits keep allowing wolves to kill and eat them.
    Just let it go, this thread may have to die at this point to save our brain cells...
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Africa wasn't given the information Europe and the US was given? Who kept it from them? Who kept information from Latin America?

    I don't think talking points and excuses addresses the issue.
    Information?

    Are you seeing things that aren't there?
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Since those children are going to be deported, I don't see how that encourages anyone to come here illegally

    Can you explain how?
    Read what I wrote again.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, you said that. What I said was that Mexican and Central American leaders have accurately pointed out Americans demand for drugs that fuels the problem. Though what you said is true too.
    What fuels the problem is that drugs are addictive. That's one reason they are illegal; that and they are dangerous. Even pot can be psychologically addictive.

    Illegal drug dealers push their product to those who can afford it. Hence, the large American clientele for South and Central American Drug dealers.

    Others like marijuana are psychologically addictive, and the withdrawal includes psychological symptoms like anxiety, mood swings and depression. These are harder to identify, leading to the question of whether they are really related to withdrawal versus a “I miss my pot” phenomenon.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    What fuels the problem is that drugs are addictive. That's one reason they are illegal; that and they are dangerous. Even pot can be psychologically addictive.

    Illegal drug dealers push their product to those who can afford it. Hence, the large American clientele for South and Central American Drug dealers.



    Is Marijuana Addictive? | Psychology Today
    I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just commenting in addition to it.


    In 1989, the United States invaded Panama as part of Operation Just Cause, which involved 25,000 American troops. Gen. Manuel Noriega, head of government of Panama, had been giving military assistance to Contra groups in Nicaragua at the request of the U.S.—which, in exchange, allowed him to continue his drug-trafficking activities—which they had known about since the 1960s.[27][28] When the DEA tried to indict Noriega in 1971, the CIA prevented them from doing so.[27] The CIA, which was then directed by future president George H. W. Bush, provided Noriega with hundreds of thousands of dollars per year as payment for his work in Latin America.[27] However, when CIA pilot Eugene Hasenfus was shot down over Nicaragua by the Sandinistas, documents aboard the plane revealed many of the CIA's activities in Latin America, and the CIA's connections with Noriega became a public relations "liability" for the U.S. government, which finally allowed the DEA to indict him for drug trafficking, after decades of allowing his drug operations to proceed unchecked.[27] Operation Just Cause, whose ostensible purpose was to capture Noriega, pushed the former Panamanian leader into the Papal Nuncio where he surrendered to U.S. authorities. His trial took place in Miami, where he was sentenced to 45 years in prison.[27]

    Allegations of CIA drug trafficking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Read what I wrote again.
    I did. The children coming into our country illegally are going to be deported.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    I knew that. The point of this?

    EDIT

    Everyone knows that... My mom and I talk about it all the time.
    The point? The below non-specific statement you made, along with another comment you made about slavery in a related post. Since you bashed, and I can only presume again due to lack of clarity, the USA for African woes, slavery would be your reference.

    Had you been specific I may not have felt the need to comment.

    And no, not everyone knows Africans sold each other into slavery, even though you and your mom talk about it all the time.

    And, BTW, why would you and your mom talk about that particular subject all the time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Also, for Europe's recovery post WWII the U.S. held Europe's hand like a mother would a toddler.

    We never did that for Africa and we sure as **** never did that for South America, both countries which WE PURPOSELY ****ed up big time.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just commenting in addition to it.


    In 1989, the United States invaded Panama as part of Operation Just Cause, which involved 25,000 American troops. Gen. Manuel Noriega, head of government of Panama, had been giving military assistance to Contra groups in Nicaragua at the request of the U.S.—which, in exchange, allowed him to continue his drug-trafficking activities—which they had known about since the 1960s.[27][28] When the DEA tried to indict Noriega in 1971, the CIA prevented them from doing so.[27] The CIA, which was then directed by future president George H. W. Bush, provided Noriega with hundreds of thousands of dollars per year as payment for his work in Latin America.[27] However, when CIA pilot Eugene Hasenfus was shot down over Nicaragua by the Sandinistas, documents aboard the plane revealed many of the CIA's activities in Latin America, and the CIA's connections with Noriega became a public relations "liability" for the U.S. government, which finally allowed the DEA to indict him for drug trafficking, after decades of allowing his drug operations to proceed unchecked.[27] Operation Just Cause, whose ostensible purpose was to capture Noriega, pushed the former Panamanian leader into the Papal Nuncio where he surrendered to U.S. authorities. His trial took place in Miami, where he was sentenced to 45 years in prison.[27]

    Allegations of CIA drug trafficking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    He was imprisoned in southwest (at that time) Dade County near the Zoo if i recall correctly.

    That just goes to show illegal activities are not illegal if the government takes part in it. (Our protectors and keepers)
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