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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Africa wasn't given the information Europe and the US was given? Who kept it from them? Who kept information from Latin America?

    I don't think talking points and excuses addresses the issue.
    Dictators for South America

    As for Africa they're so backwards that they simply need to be sppoonfed at this point if there's any chance of them catching up to the rest of the world.

    Certain countries in Latin America are already beginning to rebound if that helps you out with anything. It took a few decades but a good ruler can do a lot. Same goes for a bad ruler.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's no excuse. Centuries of one imperialist power to the next with a heavy foot on their neck, has held them back, on occasions when they did start to advance their OWN interests, electing liberal democracies, that leg has been kicked out from under them, and replaced with right wing dictators who were oppressive and advanced the interests of US business, on multiple occasions and this is documented fact. How you can deny the harm this has done is astonishing.
    Exactly, and then we blame them for being backwards and sending thousands of children in to our country
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So you're saying drugs are addictive and that drug dealers push their product? Bingo!
    No, you said that. What I said was that Mexican and Central American leaders have accurately pointed out Americans demand for drugs that fuels the problem. Though what you said is true too.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Exactly, and then we blame them for being backwards and sending thousands of children in to our country
    Precisely!
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's no excuse. Centuries of one imperialist power to the next with a heavy foot on their neck, has held them back, on occasions when they did start to advance their OWN interests, electing liberal democracies, that leg has been kicked out from under them, and replaced with right wing dictators who were oppressive and advanced the interests of US business, on multiple occasions and this is documented fact. How you can deny the harm this has done is astonishing.
    The level of excuse making is what is astonishing. In the spirit of one of yours, why do the countries keep allowing others to kick their legs out from under them?

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Dictators for South America

    As for Africa they're so backwards that they simply need to be sppoonfed at this point if there's any chance of them catching up to the rest of the world.

    Certain countries in Latin America are already beginning to rebound if that helps you out with anything. It took a few decades but a good ruler can do a lot. Same goes for a bad ruler.
    Well the short answer may lay in the concept of needing a ruler in the first place.

    Perhaps evolution is trying to say something...

    Food for thought.

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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Recovery isn't easy, Africa to this day still fails to recover from the slave trade centuries ago.
    Yes, its pretty stupid to sell your own into slavery.

    John Thornton and Linda Heywood of Boston University estimate that 90 percent of those shipped to the New World were enslaved by Africans and then sold to European traders.

    Henry Louis Gates, the Harvard Chair of African and African American Studies, has stated that "without complex business partnerships between African elites and European traders and commercial agents, the slave trade to the New World would have been impossible, at least on the scale it occurred.
    Slavery in Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Yes, its pretty stupid to sell your own into slavery.



    Slavery in Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I knew that. The point of this?

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    Everyone knows that... My mom and I talk about it all the time.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The level of excuse making is what is astonishing. In the spirit of one of yours, why do the countries keep allowing others to kick their legs out from under them?
    Gee, I don't know. Why do rabbits keep allowing wolves to kill and eat them.
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    Re: Central American leaders blame U.S. for border crisis[W:62]

    Also, they sold themselves into slavery but at the same time the Europeans were an equal part of that play.

    The church also played a role as the pope was one of the first to jump on the salve bandwagon by allowing Portugal to take any amount of slaves possible (Church was looking for converts).

    The U.S didn't help the situation either, we just kept buying our good ol slaves instead of stopping.
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