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U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

Mr.Nick said:
Ha, all the Nazi's fled to South America - if that happened that would have had the potential to create a "Third Reich."
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Do you think they would have fled there then?

Me no thinks so...
 
APACHERAT said:
Cheese burgers, girls without hairy armpits and legs, deordinate, bathing, owning more than one pair of underwear and
Americans don't eat their dogs.
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I will agree that most Americans don't eat anyone's dogs, but there are a few oddballs out there.
 
Mason66 said:
Are you frickin kidding?

Argentina? Where the Nazis war criminals fled to live?

Good plan that one.
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Are you frigging kidding me?

Don't know much about the formation of Israel but want to bring them up as a comparative?

Un-be-freakin-leavable...

:lamo
 
ChezC3 said:
and while Obama wants to bring in a influx of poor and uneducated

Here in the US he's helped to make

The Typical Household, Now Worth a Third Less
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Yep...... I think he loves destroying the United States...

If people even bothered to actually listen to him or read his books that is quite obvious... If he cant raise the poor up he will bring the middle class down - along with the rich.

He's a flippin totalitarian Marxist...

I can't wait until this clown is out of office.......
 
Mr.Nick said:
Clean water, decent living standards, decent clothing, freedom (to an extent)...

And like dude said, woman who shave their arm pits, people who don't smell, food.....

Dude seriously?

You're criticizing the United States and defending South America and you're from Europe?
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#1: I didn't criticize the USA, I asked a simple question.

#2: I'm not from Europe, I was born and raised in the USA and right now I live in Europe.
 
ChezC3 said:
Are you frigging kidding me?

Don't know much about the formation of Israel but want to bring them up as a comparative?

Un-be-freakin-leavable...

:lamo
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He was right bro - all the Nazi's fled to South America - well at least the leaders who were facing execution for war crimes.

They didn't want anything to do with the Nermberg Trials...

Most were probably gone before the Soviets arrived and Hitler offed himself.
 
shrubnose said:
I will agree that most Americans don't eat anyone's dogs, but there are a few oddballs out there.
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There are a few Indians who still eat dogs on the rez. More of a cultural/ historical thing.

Dog meat is quite good.

I remember back during the 70's we were in this small Mexican village eating tacos, the best tacos I ever had. Then my buddy mentioned "Have you noticed we haven't seen any dogs in this town all day" ?
 
Montecresto said:
Lol, apparently you're not going to take a look at the violence in Central America because it destroys your argument.


Crime and violence in Latin America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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No it doesn't and you're still not thinking it through. Do you deny that there are countries in Central and South America where the violence is not so prevalent? Are these places closer to their homes instead of thousands of miles away? Again if, as you suppose, they were only fleeing violence, why spend thousands of dollars and travel thousands of miles through various dangers when they could avoid all that easily?

It's not because of the violence they come here. Now, you may be able to make that argument concerning Mexican illegals considering their border butts right up against ours.
 
shrubnose said:
#1: I didn't criticize the USA, I asked a simple question.

#2: I'm not from Europe, I was born and raised in the USA and right now I live in Europe.
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The living conditions in the US are superior to those in South America (generally speaking)... But that isn't our problem - they have the resources to change that, these illegals jumping our border into the US are doing nothing more than running away from their problems..

Did our forefathers run away from their problems? hell no they fought and created this nation, now this nation is about to explode like a ****ing Pinata - all due to the lure of Obamabucks...

Not only is Obama screwing US citizens over but he's enticing people who can make a difference in their own countries to come here.... Obama is ****ing **** up left and right on a global scale.
 
clownboy said:
You don't seem to be getting it, I'm not debating the article. If you want to present some arguments that aren't just sheer fantasy, go for it, do so yourself. You've been told this already, you are the one wasting time clinging to your little propaganda sheet.
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What arguments in the article are sheer fantasy?
 
Montecresto said:
Nope, just wanted to be sure that you were comparing Mexico with America when it came to the treatment of natives.
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I wasn't comparing anything. If you looked at the post I was responding to, that I quoted, you'd see I was countering the "rich Mexican heritage" comment.
 
Mr.Nick said:
He was right bro - all the Nazi's fled to South America - well at least the leaders who were facing execution for war crimes.

They didn't want anything to do with the Nermberg Trials...

Most were probably gone before the Soviets arrived and Hitler offed himself.
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No kidding they went there. Had the Jewish influx headed to Argentina and not their current location do you think that the Nazi's would have went there as a safe haven? No. 3 locations were planned for the location of Israel. Their current location, Ethiopia, and Argentina.

The formation of Israel was going on a long time before the end of WW2.

Now, put into context what was said...
 
Lakryte said:
What arguments in the article are sheer fantasy?
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I'll give you this, you are consistent where it comes to sticking to your little propaganda book. Asked and answered.
 
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APACHERAT said:
There are a few Indians who still eat dogs on the rez. More of a cultural/ historical thing.

Dog meat is quite good.

I remember back during the 70's we were in this small Mexican village eating tacos, the best tacos I ever had. Then my buddy mentioned "Have you noticed we haven't seen any dogs in this town all day" ?
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Or you could just visit the Hawaiian Islands.
 
clownboy said:
No it doesn't and you're still not thinking it through. Do you deny that there are countries in Central and South America where the violence is not so prevalent? Are these places closer to their homes instead of thousands of miles away? Again if, as you suppose, they were only fleeing violence, why spend thousands of dollars and travel thousands of miles through various dangers when they could avoid all that easily?

It's not because of the violence they come here. Now, you may be able to make that argument concerning Mexican illegals considering their border butts right up against ours.
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Your argument was that they aren't fleeing violence which is flat ass wrong. Now you want to change your argument to what places they could flee to other than the US. The countries of Central America combined have a GDP that's a fraction of ours. They haven't the means to absorb this. Have a heart CB. Stop denying decades of US interference that has held these countries down.
 
clownboy said:
Mr.Nick is not near that old. Nor are you or I.
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Lol dude. I didn't mean it that way. Do you think the UN's creation of Israel was a good thing? Careful now!
 
ChezC3 said:
No kidding they went there. Had the Jewish influx headed to Argentina and not their current location do you think that the Nazi's would have went there as a safe haven? No. 3 locations were planned for the location of Israel. Their current location, Ethiopia, and Argentina.

The formation of Israel was going on a long time before the end of WW2.

Now, put into context what was said...
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Well, like you say if "Israel" was planned for Argentina then the Nazi's would have fled to Ethiopia or modern "Israel." haha.

The Nazi's that fled didn't want to be anywhere near the Jews which is why they fled to South America...

South America actually has a large German population btw.... Obviously they're not all Nazi's or descendants of Nazi's - still pretty weird tho.
 
Montecresto said:
Your argument was that they aren't fleeing violence which is flat ass wrong. Now you want to change your argument to what places they could flee to other than the US. The countries of Central America combined have a GDP that's a fraction of ours. They haven't the means to absorb this. Have a heart CB. Stop denying decades of US interference that has held these countries down.
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I have a heart thank you it's just not located on my sleeve. I didn't change my argument, I busted yours. You still haven't answered the question, in fact you've admitted that they don't relocate closer where it is less violent, solely because of money, economic conditions.
 
Montecresto said:
Your argument was that they aren't fleeing violence which is flat ass wrong. Now you want to change your argument to what places they could flee to other than the US. The countries of Central America combined have a GDP that's a fraction of ours. They haven't the means to absorb this. Have a heart CB. Stop denying decades of US interference that has held these countries down.
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Who cares?..... So basically people can just come to the United States whenever they feel threatened by violence?

WTF?

In what universe is it our responsibility to shelter these damn people?

Where the hell do I go if I feel threatened by violence? Canada?

You want to solve a problem or continue and excuse and an ongoing problem?
 
clownboy said:
Speak for yourself white man. And there is no "rich Mexican heritage", instead it's a history of racism and the rape of the native peoples. Turn on Spanish speaking TV, you'll notice a sea of white faces.
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There is much about the Mexican heritage that you evidently know nothing about. My wife, being Mexican, has enlightened me over the past 40+ years of marriage.

For some reason you cannot see past your racism. Too bad.
 
Montecresto said:
Lol dude. I didn't mean it that way. Do you think the UN's creation of Israel was a good thing? Careful now!
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Do I think the Brits were wise with the Mandate of Palestine? Meh, they were in a period where they were dismantling their empire and that area was a war spoil leftover from WWI and the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Well, like you say if "Israel" was planned for Argentina then the Nazi's would have fled to Ethiopia or modern "Israel." haha.

The Nazi's that fled didn't want to be anywhere near the Jews which is why they fled to South America...

South America actually has a large German population btw.... Obviously they're not all Nazi's or descendants of Nazi's - still pretty weird tho.
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Herzl, the father of Zionism actually preferred Argentina. Why? Too long to get into here and not an appropriate place anyhow.

but yeah, I was never disputing that the Nazi's went down there nor that there is a large Euro/German population. I was dismissing his comparative and providing an alternate solution which correlated with the comparison.

Then, I'm the one who gets mocked when I'm the only one who actually knows what the hell he's talking about...

:damn

but whatever...
 
Texmex said:
There is much about the Mexican heritage that you evidently know nothing about. My wife, being Mexican, has enlightened me over the past 40+ years of marriage.

For some reason you cannot see past your racism. Too bad.
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You're beating the wrong horse, my daughter and grandchildren are brown skinned, my ex being a full blood Panamanian Indian. And there is no "rich Mexican heritage" that doesn't include a huge amount of racism.
 
clownboy said:
I have a heart thank you it's just not located on my sleeve. I didn't change my argument, I busted yours. You still haven't answered the question, in fact you've admitted that they don't relocate closer where it is less violent, solely because of money, economic conditions.
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Busted an argument? You've had it proven to you by multiple posters that the US is largely responsible for the conditions in Central America. And I admitted nothing. I pointed out that there are no other viable options for these refugees, that the UN is right on this and you'll have to scoot over and make room for these people because they're coming, and are already here.
 
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