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The UN never crosses my mind - what the hell would they do if they didn't support Iraq?

Attack the US? with what and by whom?

What exactly can the UN do to the US?

Oh yeah, nothing.

The UN is nothing more than a bunch of children playing "house."

I don't believe that I said anything about the UN attacking the US, and I don't know where you're going with that.
 
Illegal aliens need to stop being pandered to....... These progressives care more about illegal aliens from Mexico or Central America than they do the Vets, the homeless and the jobless US citizens....

Deport these people - I don't even care, but the argument will be: " It's too expensive" or "it's impossible" considering Obama wants 3 billion dollars to buy hotels that would cost any US citizen 200 a night to stay in.... So I don't buy those excuses.

This border nonsense is bull**** - send these illegals back to their own countries.... Let them "change" their own countries - which is highly ironic considering that idiot Obama is all about "change" yet he takes in a bunch of people who run away from their countries? if he's so damn fond of change then he would send these illegals back to change THEIR countries...

However we all damn well know exactly why these progressive con-men in congress want them here.... It's not for sympathy or apathy - it's for democrat votes.

The worst part is that progressives cant even see the real elitists...... Those progressive fools on capitol hill who think they're some sort of ****ing royalty, and who think they're smarter than us - that's why they talk AT US not TO US..

These democrats damn well know these illegals that are jumping the border are usually not the smartest individuals and will do as they're told especially for a few bucks.. Not to mention the only party an illegal can vote for is the democrat party because they're the only ones who will tolerate illegals voting.

If anyone thinks that is bull**** - I have observed it for the last 20 years and at one point in my life actually supported it..

STOP!! Blaming this all on liberals, you look silly. Our borders have NEVER been secure. Over the last 4 decades, 15-20 million people have come into our country illegally through our porous borders.
 
STOP!! Blaming this all on liberals, you look silly. Our borders have NEVER been secure. Over the last 4 decades, 15-20 million people have come into our country illegally through our porous borders.

Liberals? ha, I'm a liberal... I'm blaming this crap on progressives with their open border philosophy..

Yeah, illegals have been jumping the border since there was one, yet progressives invite them here - they're as lax as they can be with immigration laws - even to the point of suing states that take the immigration laws seriously which is highly ironic...

Name one president that sued states because they wanted to identify and deport illegal aliens??

Oh yeah, Obama and Obama along with that assclown Holder.
 
Liberals? ha, I'm a liberal... I'm blaming this crap on progressives with their open border philosophy..

Yeah, illegals have been jumping the border since there was one, yet progressives invite them here - they're as lax as they can be with immigration laws - even to the point of suing states that take the immigration laws seriously which is highly ironic...

Name one president that sued states because they wanted to identify and deport illegal aliens??

Oh yeah, Obama and Obama along with that assclown Holder.

Do you want to be credible in this debate?? There's one party in America with two wings, that bird is on one course. Our borders are porous because it advances the interests of big business. Both parties pander to big business. Any attempts to stifle illegal immigration are opposed by both.



Fox News' own Judge Napolitano: Arizona law "is unconstitutional" because AZ "can't write a law that says the federal law means something different in Arizona than it does in the other 49 states." On the July 7 edition of Fox Business Network's Varney & Co., Fox legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano railed against the Arizona law, calling it "un-American." Napolitano called the law "unconstitutional" and noted that the Supreme Court has ruled that immigration laws are "strictly a federal issue." From Varney & Co.:
 
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I don't believe that I said anything about the UN attacking the US, and I don't know where you're going with that.


You didn't say it - I said it as a scenario.... What the hell will the UN do?

NOTHING!

No one will attack the US - it would cause a global economic meltdown, not to mention the US has so much fire power that the US could blow geo into pieces (metaphorically speaking)..

I'll I'm telling you is that the majority of nations except for the secluded ones can tell the UN to go piss off - hence their opinion on anything doesn't matter because they cant do a damn thing..

The three superpowers in the world are the US, China and Russia and maybe India... Now do you think any of them actually give a **** what the UN has to say?

It's quite obvious China does whatever the hell they want - and that is fine because they're really not affecting anyone, Russia is slowly attempting to build the Soviet Empire back up and India has always pretty much been humble...

What the **** is the UN going to do? say if Obama walks into a United Nations meeting and starts bitch slapping people? what will happen? nothing really - people will get pissed but geo-politically nothing will happen.

Get off the "UN says so" nonsense.
 
You are avoiding the argument. You have refused to addressed the points brought up in the article--let alone even bother to read them. Your only response has been a genetic fallacy, which you are still doing, and now you are throwing in ad hominem as well.

If you are so confident that the article is biased and false, then prove it. Otherwise you are just wasting time.

You don't seem to be getting it, I'm not debating the article. If you want to present some arguments that aren't just sheer fantasy, go for it, do so yourself. You've been told this already, you are the one wasting time clinging to your little propaganda sheet.
 
Exactly what makes the USA better than any South American country?

Fill us in.

Cheese burgers, girls without hairy armpits and legs, deordinate, bathing, owning more than one pair of underwear and Americans don't eat their dogs.
 
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I understand your frustration. Hispanics are coming into the U.S. in droves and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Your children will be minorities in their own country before long, and your grand-children may end up being the permanent underclass of their generation.

My children, on the other hand, will enjoy their rich Mexican heritage while living in this wonderful land of yours. I'm sure there will be enough fast-food establishments for your lineage to work at while serving food to my lineage.

Speak for yourself white man. And there is no "rich Mexican heritage", instead it's a history of racism and the rape of the native peoples. Turn on Spanish speaking TV, you'll notice a sea of white faces.
 
Do you want to be credible in this debate?? There's one party in America with two wings, that bird is on one course. Our borders are porous because it advances the interests of big business. Both parties pander to big business. Any attempts to stifle illegal immigration are opposed by both.

Oh, I have two wings - I'm a libertarian which is why you cant understand what I'm telling you bluntly albeit.

I'm not going to sit here and present a "typical" argument via debate over simplistic nonsense. I could do so but I choose not to. Formalities is what delays the inevitable, so I don't *****foot... I like to get to the meat and potatoes. As a matter of fact the US would be better off if there were more people like me running the show....

I have no desire to have a redundant debate, I want to discuss or debate the bigger picture not some nonsense like the UN - because that argument will always be "my dad can beat your dad up - NO! my dad can beat your dad up" - see, I have no interest in that, besides I have already proven the UN is absolutely useless and you haven't even challenged me on that point.
 
Speak for yourself white man. And there is no "rich Mexican heritage", instead it's a history of racism and the rape of the native peoples. Turn on Spanish speaking TV, you'll notice a sea of white faces.

"Rape of the native people's"?
 
Oh, I have two wings - I'm a libertarian which is why you cant understand what I'm telling you bluntly albeit.

I'm not going to sit here and present a "typical" argument via debate over simplistic nonsense. I could do so but I choose not to. Formalities is what delays the inevitable, so I don't *****foot... I like to get to the meat and potatoes. As a matter of fact the US would be better off if there were more people like me running the show....

I have no desire to have a redundant debate, I want to discuss or debate the bigger picture not some nonsense like the UN - because that argument will always be "my dad can beat your dad up - NO! my dad can beat your dad up" - see, I have no interest in that, besides I have already proven the UN is absolutely useless and you haven't even challenged me on that point.

To suggest that the UN is totally useless is so stupid its not worthy of debate.
 
Stop it CB, just because you and I disagree doesn't mean I have failed to think about anything. Why do you insist on us not helping in a problem that we helped create?

Because, as I have stated repeatedly, I don't believe we helped create this problem. And you stop it, stop insisting they are fleeing violence. There are plenty of less violent places far closer and easier to get to for them. They come here for one reason and one reason alone - to make money.
 
Exactly what makes the USA better than any South American country?

Fill us in.

Clean water, decent living standards, decent clothing, freedom (to an extent)...

And like dude said, woman who shave their arm pits, people who don't smell, food.....

Dude seriously?

You're criticizing the United States and defending South America and you're from Europe?
 
Because, as I have stated repeatedly, I don't believe we helped create this problem. And you stop it, stop insisting they are fleeing violence. There are plenty of less violent places far closer and easier to get to for them. They come here for one reason and one reason alone - to make money.

Lol, apparently you're not going to take a look at the violence in Central America because it destroys your argument.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_and_violence_in_Latin_America
 
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To suggest that the UN is totally useless is so stupid its not worthy of debate.

Ok well what could the UN do?

If it is stupid I'm sure you have all these "punishments" dancing in your head...

Oh and the funny part is the US has already defied the UN NUMEROUS times and they did absolutely nothing so I suppose the evidence suggests that the UN is full of crap.
 
There were dark skinned Indians there first too you know. Do you really think they spoke Spanish originally?

Nope, just wanted to be sure that you were comparing Mexico with America when it came to the treatment of natives.
 
Ok well what could the UN do?

If it is stupid I'm sure you have all these "punishments" dancing in your head...

Oh and the funny part is the US has already defied the UN NUMEROUS times and they did absolutely nothing so I suppose the evidence suggests that the UN is full of crap.

Did you support the creation of Israel?
 
and while Obama wants to bring in a influx of poor and uneducated

Here in the US he's helped to make

The Typical Household, Now Worth a Third Less
Economic inequality in the United States has been receiving a lot of attention. But it’s not merely an issue of the rich getting richer. The typical American household has been getting poorer, too.

The inflation-adjusted net worth for the typical household was $87,992 in 2003. Ten years later, it was only $56,335, or a 36 percent decline, according to a study financed by the Russell Sage Foundation. Those are the figures for a household at the median point in the wealth distribution — the level at which there are an equal number of households whose worth is higher and lower. But during the same period, the net worth of wealthy households increased substantially.

The Russell Sage study also examined net worth at the 95th percentile. (For households at that level, 94 percent of the population had less wealth and 4 percent had more.) It found that for this well-do-do slice of the population, household net worth increased 14 percent over the same 10 years. Other research, by economists like Edward Wolff at New York University, has shown even greater gains in wealth for the richest 1 percent of households.
 
Did you support the creation of Israel?

An alternative location for Israel before it's creation in it's rightful place, was in Argentina.

Send them there.
 
Lol, apparently you're not going to take a look at the violence in Central America because it destroys your argument.


Where the hell are you from?

I could drop you off 5 blocks from a bus stop in Chicago and in the right area by the time you reach that bus stop you will be naked if not abducted.

Also don't confuse Columbia with all Central American nations - Honduras as a nation is NOT bad...

What you have been trying to do is blend insanely violent nations and grouping them all into one nation that's why you guys have been using the phrase "Central America" instead of using names of specific countries.

Yeah, Brazil also has horrible ghettos where the crime rate is astronomical, yet tourism is fantastic because it has it's nice parts and its bad parts.
 
An alternative location for Israel before it's creation in it's rightful place, was in Argentina.

Send them there.

Are you frickin kidding?

Argentina? Where the Nazis war criminals fled to live?

Good plan that one.
 
An alternative location for Israel before it's creation in it's rightful place, was in Argentina.

Send them there.


Ha, all the Nazi's fled to South America - if that happened that would have had the potential to create a "Third Reich."
 
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