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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The US has NEVER bowed to pressure from the UN. IF that is true the UN can go take a flying leap.
    Use the UN to get permission to go to war with xyz country, and tell them to fo otherwise, ok.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Use the UN to get permission to go to war with xyz country, and tell them to fo otherwise, ok.
    No, not necessary nor wise. If the UN wants to relocate those folks, relocate them to one of the other South American countries. No need to accept the US being the dumping ground.

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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm sorry those folks can't get their **** together. Still doesn't make those folks refugees. It makes them a high crime country which will more than likely export criminals.
    Blame a crisis of US making on someone else as you will, you're in good company here with that.


    The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

    Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5596125.html
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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There's pressure from the UN for the US and Mexico to accept these folk as refugees.

    They're NOT refugees and I could care less what the US and the UN have to say. The present day leadership of the US and the UN have absolutely NO IDEA what a refugee even is.

    A refugee is a culled/purged individual with no home and no where to go, and in some circumstances an individual that escaped a totalitarian/authoritarian regime in which they cannot go back. Think present day North Korea or Cold War USSR....

    Hondurans are NOT even close to meeting any of that criteria.

    Also refugees have to be rejected by numerous other countries to seek asylum in the US - the US for refugees (well unless you're from Cuba) is the last resort - not the FIRST resort...

    Also , a bit OT here but - for all those that hate Israel and who support all these illegals coming to the US -- Guess what? the entire state of Israel is really nothing more than an entire state of refugees from Nazi Germany and the aftermath? That's something to think about there.
    Last edited by Mr.Nick; 07-25-14 at 02:50 PM.

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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Blame a crisis of US making on someone else as you will, you're in good company here with that.


    The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

    Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

    Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps
    Yeah, yeah. The old blame the US shtick. Free Mumia! while you're at it. Those government fail because they are greedy and corrupt and that's ALL down to the people of those lands.

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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    http://www.undp.org/content/dam/rbla...iveSummary.pdf


    The most recent statistics place Central America as the world’s most violent re- gion. In the last decade there have been 145,000 homicides in 7 countries in the region, the vast majority of them in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. These countries appear each year among the top ten places for homicides in the world. According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) report, in 2010 the rate of homicides for every 100,000 inhabitants in the countries in the region were: read more here.

    http://www.ycsg.yale.edu/center/form...erica64-72.pdf
    It has nothing to do with civil violence - that has no status on refugee status....... Are they at civil war? is the government purging and culling individuals - the answers to that is no and no...... Furthermore Chicago is more dangerous than Honduras.... So what is your point?

    The United States in NOT their last solution.....

    These clowns that want to give Honduran status may as well claim that those stuck in the middle of gang violence in Chicago are entitled to million dollar homes on Chicago's north shore because "its too dangerous" for them to live on the south or west sides of Chicago.
    Last edited by Mr.Nick; 07-25-14 at 03:03 PM.

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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I'm not.

    International laws dictate how refugees must be treated.

    Are you suggesting that the USA ignore those laws?

    Fill us in.
    If there was a real serious problem in Honduras where there were refuges fleeing from who knows what, the UN would have set up refuge camps in Panama and Costa Rica.

    There are no refugees in Honduras, the conditions in Honduras are the same as they always have been, just your typical banana republic basket case.

    Obama has announced to the world in particular Central America he's not enforcing our borders or immigration laws and amigos of the Democrat Party will be given "permiso" and transported to any neighborhood they want to wait out for amnesty and citizenship while living off the stupid American taxpayers.

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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, yeah. The old blame the US shtick. Free Mumia! while you're at it. Those government fail because they are greedy and corrupt and that's ALL down to the people of those lands.
    Typical failure to accept responsibility. You know you blame a half of America every damn day with your blame Obama and the democrats for everything. Stop it with the partisan bull****, unless you really don't care that America is collapsing, all the way around from failed administration policies after failed administration policies. The partisan bickering and finger pointing distracts from the fact that we have a single party with two wings on the same ****ing course!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It has nothing to do with civil violence - that has no status on refugee status....... Are they at civil war? is the government purging and culling individuals - the answers to that is no and no...... Furthermore Chicago is more dangerous than Honduras.... So what is your point?

    The United States in NOT their last solution.....

    These clowns that want to give Honduran status may as well claim that those stuck in the middle of gang violence in Chicago are entitled to million dollar homes on Chicago's north shore because "its too dangerous" for them to live on the south or west sides of Chicago.
    Wow, undp posts the statistics documenting Central America to be, at present, the most dangerous place on earth, and you say it's Chicago. And what's with the million dollar homes. A bit hyperbolic.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, not necessary nor wise. If the UN wants to relocate those folks, relocate them to one of the other South American countries. No need to accept the US being the dumping ground.




    Exactly what makes the USA better than any South American country?

    Fill us in.

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