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Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

When you are dead, you are no longer a person. Why would a person want to deny life or sight or restored health to another living person?

Because when you make the decision you are a person...
 
Right! :lamo

You want to go that way. Countries like the UK who don't have the death penalty have lower crime rates than America. Hell, states without the death penalty have lower homicide rates than states with the death penalty. Correlation? According to you, yes.
 
Did I stutter? You champion criminals, you hate Christians, Conservative and Police Officers.

:lamo But disagreeing with the death penalty I "champion criminals, you hate Christians, Conservative and Police Officers." .

Lets get the facts straight

1.) I dont champion criminals, I just dont believe the state should be in the business of exectuions
2.)No I dont hate Christians. I come from a family of Lutherans. I myself am a "questionable Christian".
3.)I dont hate Conservatvies. I just disagree with their policies
4.)No I dont hate police officeres. I hate police brutatliy.
 
I wish it could have been more cruel and unusual punishment for the criminal.

read where a million stray dogs a year are euthanized. I feel worse for every single one them more than I do for this criminal's pain.

only saying their are so many more things feel bad about. this just doesn't register at all to me.
 
:lamo But disagreeing with the death penalty I "champion criminals, you hate Christians, Conservative and Police Officers." .

It's emotional lashing out by those incapable of producing an actual argument.
 
Yes let's talk about Joseph wood, from a quote:



Now care to tell me how his victim felt during their time of death? Do you think Wood felt a FRACTION of what they felt? I think not.

It's amazing the humanity given to criminals, but no thought of what their victims felt.

There is a reason this person was on death row, and sorry but no, I don't feel for him one bit.

I believe our desire to ensure that inmates receive humane and quick deaths stems from our awareness that some of these people being put to death where wrongly accused. If there are going to continue to be instances, no matter how rare, where the innocent are put to death - at least make it quick. So the guilt has reason when we see a botched execution.
 
There's no reason to implement such a broken and expensive system if it serves no benefit.

It does serve a benefit, just not an aggregate benefit.
 
It does serve a benefit, just not an aggregate benefit.

What benefit? Some limited "benefit" that could be realized in greater force by reforming general jailing policies and reducing prison enacting laws? Because here we sit, and you're trying to convince me, or state, that killing is apparently the only solution. I don't 100% buy that killing, evoking a broken and expensive and dangerous system, is the only solution. You have any argument or proof that it is the only solution?
 
Bah, double post.
 
What benefit? Some limited "benefit" that could be realized in greater force by reforming general jailing policies and reducing prison enacting laws? Because here we sit, and you're trying to convince me, or state, that killing is apparently the only solution. I don't 100% buy that killing, evoking a broken and expensive and dangerous system, is the only solution. You have any argument or proof that it is the only solution?

Benefit to the family, to gain closure. Benefit to society knowing that heinous illegal acts of wanton violence exact the ultimate price. Benefit that laws are passed and followed, including execution. A benefit to society that assures the populace that the most dire crimes against humanity carry an equally costly price. I never claimed it's the only solution nor am I arguing it's the only solution (you brought that up), but it is a solution. Since there is a benefit, just not an aggregate benefit, and it is a solution albeit not the ONLY solution, it does seem effective. Therefore, it seems tweaking the actual act of execution itself, and perhaps cutting the cost and time required to get to that final act are worth the effort.
 
You want to go that way. Countries like the UK who don't have the death penalty have lower crime rates than America. Hell, states without the death penalty have lower homicide rates than states with the death penalty. Correlation? According to you, yes.

How many drug cartels are there in England?
 
Benefit to the family, to gain closure. Benefit to society knowing that heinous illegal acts of wanton violence exact the ultimate price. Benefit that laws are passed and followed, including execution. A benefit to society that assures the populace that the most dire crimes against humanity carry an equally costly price. I never claimed it's the only solution nor am I arguing it's the only solution (you brought that up), but it is a solution. Since there is a benefit, just not an aggregate benefit, and it is a solution albeit not the ONLY solution, it does seem effective. Therefore, it seems tweaking the actual act of execution itself, and perhaps cutting the cost and time required to get to that final act are worth the effort.

Those are taken care of with prison at base. Revenge is not part of justice. So what benefit?
 
You know, considering Obama's actions as "President", how much liberals have supported them and how little they have held him accountable to the constitution, your statement would incredibly hilarious if it was so disturbingly, heartbreakingly hypocritical.

I like how people tend to throw around the constitution to push an overly inflated superiority complex while actually having a very minimal knowledge of it... usually which is exposed when you ask them to get a tad more specific than just saying "Constitution" pretending it to be a giant bludgeon.
 
Oh, almost forgot. Of course I used an emotional appeal. I was speaking to a leftist. Everyone knows that logic and reason are never considered by the left.

I think Turtle had a good post about emotional appeals that showed a pretty reasoned display of how it's used on both sides. You however... are quite a bit too partisan and anger filled to pull that off.
 
Those are taken care of with prison at base. Revenge is not part of justice. So what benefit?

Again, why should a heinous criminal get to live while the victims lie rotting in the ground? Because someone like you is squeamish about justice?
 
Again, why should a heinous criminal get to live while the victims lie rotting in the ground? Because someone like you is squeamish about justice?

my question is why are you so gung-ho in giving the power to brutally execute someone to the government?
 
Because they DESERVE to be brutally executed. The more brutal, the better.
 
my question is why are you so gung-ho in giving the power to brutally execute someone to the government?

Criminals deserve, after a fair trial, and appropriate appeals to face justice for their actions.
 
Meh... in this day and age it's probably much more effective to argue in favor of the death penalty based purely on economics. I'm not kidding, either. Polarization based on ideology has gotten so far out of control that economics is probably the last refuge for any real discussion.
 
Again, why should a heinous criminal get to live while the victims lie rotting in the ground? Because someone like you is squeamish about justice?

How is that justice? Just because you throw around words doesn't mean that you've used them correctly. You ain't god, and government force is limited. Or is that a lesson conservatives have forgotten?
 
Too much bloody mess to clean up afterwards. Sure, a hanged man will piss and **** themselves, but most is kept in their pants.

gas chamber victims in Arizona were sent to their deaths only wearing diapers.
 
Because they DESERVE to be brutally executed. The more brutal, the better.

so you want say the return of boiling in oil, crucifixion or the Pear?
 
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