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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    The guy was a sick ****, and perhaps mentally ill. I make no excuses for him. I think what he did was disgusting. I know a lot of women who have dealt with domestic violence. I have seen domestic violence, and I constantly see stupid ass people saying that those women are dumb for not getting out. It's hard to get it. It's dangerous to get out. Unfortunately not many people try to actually empathize with the victims of domestic violence or rape for that matter. A lot of people don't actually understand DV, and I dearly wish they did.

    They guy that killed that family in Texas also had a history of DV.

    Instead of trying to educate ourselves as a society on DV and memorializing the victims in a positive way, we are more concerned about the perpetuators.


    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Me too. That asshole felt no remorse and neither do I for him. He shot two people in cold blood after what sounds like repeated domestic offenses against her and we are supposed to feel bad his execution was prolonged? As if!


    Arizona execution takes nearly 2 hours - The Washington Post

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    I think it's destructive to us as a society when we engage in acts of vengeance like this and revel in the suffering of another human being. While we are no doubt better off without this human amongst us it's quite a different matter to volunteer your conscience to become a part of the faceless mob seeking this kind of pseudo justice and enjoying his torture.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I think it's destructive to us as a society when we engage in acts of vengeance like this and revel in the suffering of another human being. While we are no doubt better off without this human amongst us it's quite a different matter to volunteer your conscience to become a part of the faceless mob seeking this kind of pseudo justice and enjoying his torture.
    It would be wrong to knowingly torture anyone, even those who many people would acknowledge to be deserving, because it makes us (as a society) no better than those who are tortured and killed. However, I do not think in this case, torture was the goal. It was an execution and the point of executing someone using lethal injection is to make it as humane as possible. Even though it took him this long to die, he was very likely unconscious during the process. Barbiturates typically sedate and would nearly eliminate any potential suffering.

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    Dead bodies don't make decisions. Selfish desires vs utility.
    I am an organ donor,... and we make the decision prior to death. A truly basic concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, these humans do not. We use government force to enact punishment, and government is limited. Jail and justice are for society, the protections of our rights, it's not a system for revenge. Life in prison without parole serves society well, the death penalty adds nothing but waste of time, energy, resource, and money. It's completely illogical.
    Only execution ensures they will never kill again.

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Only execution ensures they will never kill again.
    And all the people who kill who weren't guilty of the crimes they committed....just stopping possible future murders?

    You cannot punish someone for something they might do in the future. There's no such thing as future crime. And society on large is protected just as well by life in prison without parole. And it's cheaper, so we don't have to waste money on some archaic and unnecessary system of death.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Our justice system is not for revenge.
    How compassionate of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How compassionate of you.
    It's not compassion, our justice system is not for revenge. It's a statement of fact. If you use it for revenge, you break the whole thing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The guy was a sick ****, and perhaps mentally ill. I make no excuses for him. I think what he did was disgusting. I know a lot of women who have dealt with domestic violence. I have seen domestic violence, and I constantly see stupid ass people saying that those women are dumb for not getting out. It's hard to get it. It's dangerous to get out. Unfortunately not many people try to actually empathize with the victims of domestic violence or rape for that matter. A lot of people don't actually understand DV, and I dearly wish they did.

    They guy that killed that family in Texas also had a history of DV.

    Instead of trying to educate ourselves as a society on DV and memorializing the victims in a positive way, we are more concerned about the perpetuators.
    It makes me extremely mad when I hear people say that women who are victims of domestic violence caused their own problems. I know someone who was a victim, and what she went through was absolute hell. To this day, 15 years later, she still bears the scars - physical & emotional. Once I knew the entire backstory, I understood fully how she became trapped. DV is a horrible, awful issue.

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not compassion, our justice system is not for revenge. It's a statement of fact. If you use it for revenge, you break the whole thing.
    Revenge is your construct...I simply don't care in the slightest about a piece of **** that tortured and killed innocent people....If he suffered, ok....if he didn't, ok....maybe they should just have put a bullet in his head...
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