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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    When you are dead, you are no longer a person. Why would a person want to deny life or sight or restored health to another living person?
    What would be ideal is if the doctors were allowed to harvest the organs while the patient was still 'living' just in a persistent comatose state. Thats a REALLY good idea!

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    For Christians. Irony. If it were not for the death penalty Jesus would not have died for our sins.

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    In my opinion, this makes the argument FOR the death penalty. The death penalty SHOULD be cruel and unusual.
    According to numerous USSC rulings, no its not.


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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Reportedly? Please.
    Thats what happens. Journalists report what they eyewitness...


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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    That doesn't give us the right to commit cruel and unusual punishments on people.
    I absolutely agree. Executions should be quick, efficient, painless. I really dont think we as a society should be glorifying an execution regardless of the crime.

    However.

    This was not a cruel and unusual execution. The science and expectation was that this would be quick, efficient, and painless. No one planned this execution chuckling and saying "watch this ****..."

    The simple fact of the matter is that there ARE fast and efficient means. Death penalty opponents rail against all of them and in many cases, this is what is left.

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Thats what happens. Journalists report what they eyewitness...
    And they "eyewitnessed" a guy under anesthesia suddenly awaken? Sorry, calling BS here. They witnessed convulsions and other involuntary movements and projected.

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    A naive thing to say. "They" haven't killed two innocent people - the criminal did. Why can't you acknowledge that?
    Not naive. Most of us are not barbarians, but I understand that there are some people who take pride in being uncivilized savages.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not naive. Most of us are not barbarians, but I understand that there are some people who take pride in being uncivilized savages.
    Nice emotive appeals but irrelevant. If an individual cannot intellectually discern the difference between a criminal who killed two innocent people and the state who carries out an execution BECAUSE of the criminals actions, your reasoning has no foundation, and as I said, is based on flawed emotion rather than fact or logic.

    I for one do take pride in holding criminals accountable. Count me as a "savage".
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Rapist, child molesters, all first degree murders not just those with special circumstances, terrorist.
    All should be sent to death? Even tho we realize our justice system isnt perfect?

    Whats the number of prisoner escapes each year? Some years more, some less, but roughly 2,000 a year. Recent data is hard to find.
    Which is .0008% of the prison population. And how many get recaptured? From what I found 78% get recaptures almost instantly.

    What does "life in prison" really mean? https://fullfact.org/factchecks/murd...e_parole-28691


    In 2010, 115 people were released from prison having served a life sentence for murder. Of these, six had served fewer than 10 years. In 2011, 160 people were released from prison having served a life sentence for murder. Of these, 26 had served fewer than 10 years.
    AS your article points out its a very very small number of those serving life sentences.



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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    For people like you, holding anyone accountable, aside conservatives, Christians and police offices is cruel and unusual.
    What?


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