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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    That would actually make you a hypocrite. No offense. If you're going to argue that emotion has no place in the law, you can't modify it to be it's appropriate as long as you agree with it without being hypocritical.



    No, it's based on your argument that consideration for victims is a non sequitur. FTR, I disagree.
    Well I don't intend to be a hypocrite but you are welcome to point it out to me when I do it.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    We are talking about the death penalty as it were. So going back to the murder itself is a non-sequitur UNLESS you are going to argue that vengeance is and should be the purpose of the law. No one was arguing the vengeance angle so going back to the murder was a non sequitur in attempts to derail the discussion with emotion and declaring that ones that do not support the death penalty somehow don't care about the murdered and their family. These are two separate topics that are being conflated via emotion.
    Cry me a river. I've just been told I am the same as the murderer. Top that.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    That's interesting. PowerRob is whining because he thinks being told he doesn't care about victims and here you are, saying I'm just the same as, not just a murderer, but a capital murderer.

    I think that gives me the win.
    I'm not following. Are you saying I stated you were the same as the murderer? If somehow I did that I am unaware and sure as hell didn't mean it that way.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Well I don't intend to be a hypocrite but you are welcome to point it out to me when I do it.
    How about you just not do what you're condemning other for?
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Cry me a river. I've just been told I am the same as the murderer. Top that.
    I don't see this as some kind of sympathy contest... yet another appeal to emotion.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'm not following. Are you saying I stated you were the same as the murderer? If somehow I did that I am unaware and sure as hell didn't mean it that way.
    No, not you. I was speaking to/about the person I quoted. I'll await your condemnation of her emotional appeal.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    How about you just not do what you're condemning other for?
    What's your beef? I think I've been rather reasonable with you and you keep going off all half cocked on me. Why is that?
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I don't see this as some kind of sympathy contest... yet another appeal to emotion.
    You're saying it's the right that uses emotional appeal on this issue. Funny what you notice and what you don't.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    The same could be said of you. However, many lifers aren't really pro life because they value life, think all life is equal and no life should ever be dehumanized, etc. They are anti abortion because they think women should pay a price for having sex, that there should be consequences for women and those consequences keep society in balance through as a means of social engineering, they support patriarchy, traditionalism, family values, etc., so in the case of death penalty, you feel morally justified in arguing for death of a person and even for human suffering. It coincides with the anti abortion mentality of punishment and consequence.

    Other people, like me, support legal access to abortion, but morally oppose abortion on a personal level. I am also opposed to the death penalty. I am a pragmatic, analytical person when it comes it my personal ethics.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Consider the heavy overlap between those who most staunchly oppose the death penalty, and those who most staunchly defend abortion. There is a very large portion of our population that values the lives of the very worst criminals more than they value the lives of the most innocent and defenseless children. It is a terrible and tragic commentary on where our values are, as a society.

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    What's your beef? I think I've been rather reasonable with you and you keep going off all half cocked on me. Why is that?
    How was my comment unreasonable?
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