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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You didn't need to restate the obvious.
    That's rather really ****ed up that you would do that. Again showing that one cannot debate rationally when one is so emotionally overcharged.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    See X Factor? appeal to emotion with a non sequitur.
    Most of the things I'm passionate about are because they engage my emotions, I'll admit that. I support animal cruelty laws because the thought of animals being hurt for fun breaks my heart. I'll also be one of those "Bible thumpers" TD was referring to on the issues of abortion, especially after viewing the developing baby of my friend. The thought that someone could have cut the little guy apart and pulled him out in pieces also breaks my heart. Emotions also drive many of my actions. This past weekend, I took the time to get a dog to trust me enough to let me get to where I could read his tag so I get him home because, as I've already said, animals engage my emotions. In the case of crime victims, I am incapable of being dispassionate about them, it's true, but I do agree that you would need to be in order to oppose the death penalty.

    On the other hand, you're the one who has argued that emotion should play no role in laws or law enforcement. I expect you to be consistent on that.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    That's rather really ****ed up that you would do that.
    Not half as ****ed up that you would actually post it.

    This man deserved to die. I have sympathy for his victims and their families. You don't.

    You'll also notice I didn't cheer about how he died. But I have no sympathy for him.

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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Maybe you should take a look at what they did to prisoners and murders during their time.

    Hell, I'm all for bringing back the stocks. Whipping. etc. They knew how to take care of criminals.
    I'd say something about evolving but being from the right I'd have to put up with the whole not believing in evolution bit.

    How about a quote from one of the founding fathers eh?

    "I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    See X Factor... another appeal to emotion with this same non sequitur. Being against the death penalty in no way is siding with the criminal. Another...er... actually the same repeated BS argument gone down the toilet.
    No appeal to emotion, just an obvious fact. Liberals tend to consistently take positions that are to the benefit of criminals, and to the detriment of honest society. This shows us whose side they are on, and it isn't on the side of honest citizens.

    It's completely in character for the liberals here to express so much concern over the fact that this subhuman piece of solid digestive waste might have experienced some discomfort during the last hours of its worthless life; while dismissing any consideration for the suffering that it inflicted on its victims.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    See X Factor... another appeal to emotion with this same non sequitur. Being against the death penalty in no way is siding with the criminal. Another...er... actually the same repeated BS argument gone down the toilet.
    You haven't flushed that argument at all, you've perpetuated it. You, yourself, said the victim is a non-sequitur. YourStar has said they are irrelevant and that the guy's crime doesn't matter. The OP said that no amount of suffering should be visited upon the murderer. You may not think you're siding with the murderer but I guarantee that those are all arguments and statements that the murderer would fully agree with.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Most of the things I'm passionate about are because they engage my emotions, I'll admit that. I support animal cruelty laws because the thought of animals being hurt for fun breaks my heart. I'll also be one of those "Bible thumpers" TD was referring to on the issues of abortion, especially after viewing the developing baby of my friend. The thought that someone could have cut the little guy apart and pulled him out in pieces also breaks my heart. Emotions also drive many of my actions. This past weekend, I took the time to get a dog to trust me enough to let me get to where I could read his tag so I get him home because, as I've already said, animals engage my emotions. In the case of crime victims, I am incapable of being dispassionate about them, it's true, but I do agree that you would need to be in order to oppose the death penalty.

    On the other hand, you're the one who has argued that emotion should play no role in laws or law enforcement. I expect you to be consistent on that.
    I'll waiver I'm sure. I'm human. But right now I have a poster in here telling me I have absolutely no feeling for the murdered family because I don't agree with her. Oh wells.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'd say something about evolving but being from the right I'd have to put up with the whole not believing in evolution bit.
    Oh. I believe in evolution. But you might want to consider that we evolved to where we are because of the predator in us, not the sheep. Only a predator can sit atop the food chain.

    You sheep, you fear us, you loath us and even more you fear the predator in yourself, but we are the reason mankind is where it is. We protect the flock and your flock needs us.

    How many fewer crimes that need a death penalty would there be if we trained the predator instead of using the sheep's wish to remove it?
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor {to poweRob} View Post
    Most of the things I'm passionate about are because they engage my emotions, I'll admit that. I support animal cruelty laws because the thought of animals being hurt for fun breaks my heart. I'll also be one of those "Bible thumpers" TD was referring to on the issues of abortion, especially after viewing the developing baby of my friend. The thought that someone could have cut the little guy apart and pulled him out in pieces also breaks my heart. Emotions also drive many of my actions. This past weekend, I took the time to get a dog to trust me enough to let me get to where I could read his tag so I get him home because, as I've already said, animals engage my emotions. In the case of crime victims, I am incapable of being dispassionate about them, it's true, but I do agree that you would need to be in order to oppose the death penalty.

    On the other hand, you're the one who has argued that emotion should play no role in laws or law enforcement. I expect you to be consistent on that.
    Do you realize what you just said? You said that you expect a liberal to be consistent—that you think he should himself behave by the same rules that he seeks to impose on others. This is, after all, an admitted liberal you are addressing.
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    Re: Inmate Dies 2 Hours After Execution in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
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