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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So now your going to say that your Kerry comment was a compliment!! Fascinating.
    Is that what I'm going to say?

    To get out of a hole the key is to stop digging. Now would be a good time for you to stop digging.
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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Here's the stupid comment you made about John Kerry sense you are trying to "move on"
    Use the quote tag buttons - they work better.

    And what part of my statement was inaccurate that you would like to discuss... does he NOT tow the party line? Is not adequately pushing Obama's world view? Is he not useful? Dazzle me with your insight...
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In case you haven't notice, there are dicators ALL OVER the world that do that. Iran, North Korea, Africa, etc.

    So are you for the U.S. to be the world police for dictators ALL OVER the world, or are you just for blowing up brown people?
    Good point, and its been US policy to prop up dictatorships and oppressive regimes when it would suit "US Interests" or facilitate "regime change" if that better suited. One things certain, humanitarian concerns have never been the driving factor, regardless of how often spoken.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It even appears that they aren't as concerned about it as they speak.
    If they can deflect blame, like the EU is so good at doing, then why should the politicians worry?

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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Use the quote tag buttons - they work better.

    And what part of my statement was inaccurate that you would like to discuss... does he NOT tow the party line? Is not adequately pushing Obama's world view? Is he not useful? Dazzle me with your insight...
    So you do need a fourth explanation. What you said about Kerry is accurate, but its accurate of every SoS. That's what an SoS does, so pointing it out in the derogatory manner that you did, just shows partisan bs, and it really is stupid.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    If they can deflect blame, like the EU is so good at doing, then why should the politicians worry?
    Well, Russia and the US is not exempt from having deflected blame. Last fall the State Department was working with Yat's to support a coup, and it didn't quite work out the way it was planed. It cost Crimea and could end up costing eastern Ukraine.
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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So you do need a fourth explanation. What you said about Kerry is accurate, but its accurate of every SoS. That's what an SoS does, so pointing it out in the derogatory manner that you did, just shows partisan bs, and it really is stupid.
    Explicitly what part was inaccurate? Point it out, then support it with logic or facts. :
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, Russia and the US is not exempt from having deflected blame. Last fall the State Department was working with Yat's to support a coup, and it didn't quite work out the way it was planed. It cost Crimea and could end up costing eastern Ukraine.
    Yats? Coup?

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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Yats? Coup?
    Yatsenyuk, remember him?


    Washington's Man Yatsenyuk Setting Ukraine Up For Ruin

    Ukraine’s interim prime minister, Arseniy “Yats” Yatsenyuk, may prove to be arsenic to the beleaguered nation.

    “Recall the phone exchange between the Ukraine ambassador and Victoria Nuland (Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs) that got leaked out, where she basically said ‘we want Yats in there.’ They like him because he’s pro Western,” says Vladimir Signorelli, president of boutique investment research firm Bretton Woods Research LLC in New Jersey. “Yatsenyuk is the the kind of technocrat you want if you want austerity, with the veneer of professionalism,” Signorelli said. “He’s the type of guy who can hobnob with the European elite. A Mario Monti type: unelected and willing to do the IMFs bidding,” he said.

    Washington's Man Yatsenyuk Setting Ukraine Up For Ruin - Forbes
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    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Explicitly what part was inaccurate? Point it out, then support it with logic or facts. :
    What's wrong with you dude? I didn't say inaccurate! Look here, just forget it, your stupid comment wasn't worth the time spent on it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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