Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 52

Thread: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

  1. #21
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Where I am now
    Last Seen
    09-11-17 @ 03:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,386

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    From purely a political view, he very adequately tows the party line and is yet another Obama mouthpiece in the world. He's there to push Obama's world view and he does it very well. In other words, he's a useful puppet. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating what he does or this administrations view, just providing an analysis of what he does. Whether it is effective or not is a different matter.
    He does have nice hair.

  2. #22
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Where I am now
    Last Seen
    09-11-17 @ 03:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,386

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    It's sad.

    America can commit acts of war by bombing virtually any country it feels like and provide weapons to prop up horrible regimes and the world just looks the other way.

    Yet if Russia sends arms to a Russian-speaking faction on it's doorstep that is fighting for it's freedom (rightly or wrongly)...they are to be condemned and punished.

    There is a word for that...

    ...hypocrisy.

  3. #23
    Guru

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    In a Blue State
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:41 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    4,733

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    It's strange.

    America can commit acts of war by bombing virtually any country it feels like and provide weapons to prop up horrible regimes and the world just looks the other way.

    Yet if Russia sends arms to a Russian-speaking faction on it's doorstep that is fighting for it's freedom...they are to be condemned and punished.

    There is a word for that...

    ...hypocrisy.
    Did you say Syria? I heard Syria.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

  4. #24
    Educator voyager1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Atlanta
    Last Seen
    05-23-16 @ 12:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    974

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    It's sad.

    America can commit acts of war by bombing virtually any country it feels like and provide weapons to prop up horrible regimes and the world just looks the other way.

    Yet if Russia sends arms to a Russian-speaking faction on it's doorstep that is fighting for it's freedom (rightly or wrongly)...they are to be condemned and punished.

    There is a word for that...

    ...hypocrisy.
    Hard to argue with that. I will say though that Americans are not universally loved around the world. People know what we do.

  5. #25
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You've already stated that - so you didn't really have a point with the contrast question regarding Rice and Albright?
    Already started what?? You claimed that Kerry is nothing but a mouthpiece for the president, to advance the presidents agenda! Duh. That's what the SoS does, in any administration, why are you pointing at Kerry as though he's a freak in this regard?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  6. #26
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The contrast was a canard... : How surprising.
    Wtf!! It wasn't a contrast, it was a comparison.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  7. #27
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Did you say Syria? I heard Syria.
    And it's not even on our doorstep.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  8. #28
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Hard to argue with that. I will say though that Americans are not universally loved around the world. People know what we do.
    Good news is, more and more Americans are beginning to accept that reality, perhaps in time that will have influence on our FP.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  9. #29
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:38 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    43,355

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I have 0 wants to commit an American soldier to the Ukraine. It is far more a European interest than ours and they should be the ones to solve it. I don't approve of Putin's land grab. I don't believe any negotiation we could make will solve the issue with Russia. We may one day look back and equate the events in Ukraine to that of Archduke Ferdinand. I hope not, but Europe needs to lead. My $0.02 until I swayed otherwise which is possible, but I haven't been convinced that we need US boots on Ukrainian soil.
    No question. It is a European mess, caused by EU incompetence. The US is already too much involved and it is becoming an American problem thanks to the CIC with a Peace Prize.

  10. #30
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:38 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    43,355

    Re: Two Ukrainian Jets Shot Down, Defense Ministry Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In case you haven't notice, there are dicators ALL OVER the world that do that. Iran, North Korea, Africa, etc.

    So are you for the U.S. to be the world police for dictators ALL OVER the world, or are you just for blowing up brown people?
    Yes. I had noted that and studied why. One reason is that there has been no reason for them not to. And in Syria or Ukraine we are demonstrating that there is no reason now, even though the UN has adopted a norm in the mean time that says its members must prevent it.

Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •