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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    It means that the cite you provided has now been proven wrong a 2nd time. 1) the court did hear the case 2) the suit does have a chance in the courts. Add on to that, the cite's complete misunderstanding of the quotes.. and you picked a real winner.
    It was right that ACA allows subsidies in all exchanges which, in case you've forgotten, is the subject of this thread.

    And no one said the courts would not hear the case.
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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The problem is there is no evidence any state recognized that failing to set up their own exchange would cause this 'pain' that none of their residents would qualify for subsidies.
    it doesn't matter what the states realizes or not. that is why they have people in the house and the senate to read through and make sure taht the bill that are generated are in their best interest.

    their house reps and senators failed to read the bill as they wrote it.

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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It was right that ACA allows subsidies in all exchanges which, in case you've forgotten, is the subject of this thread.
    Not according to one court, so far.

    And no one said the courts would not hear the case.
    You have already been proven wrong on this.

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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Not according to one court, so far.
    It does not have the force of law. The ruling that they are legal does have the force of law.


    You have already been proven wrong on this.
    No, I haven't. It's not my fault you failed to comprehend the quote.
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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It does not have the force of law. The ruling that they are legal does have the force of law.
    A court ruled against the subsidies. The decision was stayed during appeal.

    No, I haven't. It's not my fault you failed to comprehend the quote.
    Yes, you are one to speak of comprehension issues.

    As quoted "and even less chance of being addressed by the courts anytime in the near future because of jurisdictional problems"... As the case is addressed soon after. Oops.
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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The problem is there is no evidence any state recognized that failing to set up their own exchange would cause this 'pain' that none of their residents would qualify for subsidies.
    Nonsense. I remember this being discussed in 2010.
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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's not an argument; It's a fact

    Only the intent of Congress matters



    Wrong. The law says when there's any ambiguity, the IRS can interpret the law. Your belief that there is a way to render a "strict interpretation" is contradicted by the fact that even you admit that there's ambiguity
    Judges disagree with you.
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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. I remember this being discussed in 2010.
    Well, thanks! My mind is changed because you say you 'remember' it!

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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well, thanks! My mind is changed because you say you 'remember' it!
    I'm not here to change your mind. Some causes are just lost.
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    Re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    it doesn't matter what the states realizes or not. that is why they have people in the house and the senate to read through and make sure taht the bill that are generated are in their best interest.

    their house reps and senators failed to read the bill as they wrote it.
    So, you're back to jt's circular reasoning - the bill reflects the intent of the authors. How do we know that was their intent and not a drafting error? Because that's what's in the bill!

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