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    re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    They can't ignore a court ruling. they have to appeal it. now the court can stay it's ruling depending appeal, but the IRS nor obama can ignore a court ruling.
    if they do that is concept and he can be held on impeachment.
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    he can try but even he can't change the wording in law like that and i am sure if he tried it would be challanged in court again and they should shoot him down again.
    2 years can't come soon enough to get this fool out of office.

    Did you even read the article you linked to?
    The Obama administration is certain to ask the full U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit to reverse the panel's decision, which for now does not have the rule of law.
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    re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    No worries...Obama has a pen and a phone

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    re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    what is interesting is that this came out of the DC court of appeals which is the one that obama was trying to stack because they were destroying him on just about everything.
    i guess this stacking attempt didn't work.
    This decision came from a three judge panel, two of which were Republican nominees. It will almost certainly be referred to en banc review and be heard before the entire court. That's where the stacking will help out Obama and Co in deciding that the law is not what is written but what they wish had been written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    This decision came from a three judge panel, two of which were Republican nominees. It will almost certainly be referred to en banc review and be heard before the entire court. That's where the stacking will help out Obama and Co in deciding that the law is not what is written but what they wish had been written.
    that can be appeal to the SCOTUS.

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    re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Fed appeals court panel says most Obamacare subsidies illegal

    The ruling just came in and is a huge blow to the obama administration.
    The 3 judge panel ruled that only people on state run exchanges qualified per the law.

    This could pretty much end obamacare as we know if it the SCOTUS rules the same way.
    the administration of course will appeal.
    According to the way the law is written only state exchanges are authorized to issue subsidies. But this is in plain English and Lawyerese where shall not mean you will and you will means you won't.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    This decision came from a three judge panel, two of which were Republican nominees. It will almost certainly be referred to en banc review and be heard before the entire court. That's where the stacking will help out Obama and Co in deciding that the law is not what is written but what they wish had been written.
    So what you are saying it doesn't matter one iota how the law was written, what it says in plain English. What matters is the stacking of the D.C. court by this president so he can interpret any law how he sees fit regardless of what the law actually says?
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    According to the way the law is written only state exchanges are authorized to issue subsidies. But this is in plain English and Lawyerese where shall not mean you will and you will means you won't.
    evidently that is how the appeals court saw it as well. they full said that the federal exchanges are not the state exchanges and nor could they represent the states either.
    that the law written the way that it was clearly meant that the subsidies were to inspire states to make their own exchanges.

    that it didn't include the federal exchanges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The ruling makes sense given that the government used the definition of "state" to mean actual states so as to exclude US Territories from the law.

    Can't say that "state" means a state on one hand and "state" to be "government" on the other.
    That is an interesting point. I wonder if this case had anything to do with the administration exempting US Territories from PPACA regulation earlier this week?
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    re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That is an interesting point. I wonder if this case had anything to do with the administration exempting US Territories from PPACA regulation earlier this week?
    It would have made the decision easier, but I'm sure it was decided prior to that regulation. However, it does make the government's job of arguing for "state"="government" in an appeal impossible.

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    re: Federal Court rules Most obamacare subsidies Illegal[W:286]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That is an interesting point. I wonder if this case had anything to do with the administration exempting US Territories from PPACA regulation earlier this week?
    of course it did and i think they cited that in the case i would have to re-read it. i only got about half way done.
    the court state the the law made a distinction between State and federal exchanges and that the State exchanges were the only ones as the law is written to get a subsidy.

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