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Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

Jack Hays said:
Locals are nominally in charge but the real power is with the Feds.
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News flash: The national school lunch program is a federal program.

Yes, that's right, a federal program, just as it was back when I was in elementary school

back in the 1950s.
 
Dittohead not! said:
News flash: The national school lunch program is a federal program.

Yes, that's right, a federal program, just as it was back when I was in elementary school

back in the 1950s.
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Indeed. School districts have become dependent on the federal largesse, which is now being used coercively by the Feds.
 
Jack Hays said:
Indeed. School districts have become dependent on the federal largesse, which is now being used coercively by the Feds.
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That may be true, but it has nothing to do with the federal school lunch program.
 
Dittohead not! said:
News flash: The national school lunch program is a federal program.

Yes, that's right, a federal program, just as it was back when I was in elementary school
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And it should not be. The only that the FEDS should be involved in is accreditation and even then only in regards to basic skills like math, English, geography, and history.
 
ObamacareFail said:
And it should not be. The only that the FEDS should be involved in is accreditation and even then only in regards to basic skills like math, English, geography, and history.
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why should the federal government be involved in education at all? Isn't education a function of the states?
 
Dittohead not! said:
why should the federal government be involved in education at all? Isn't education a function of the states?
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Yes....and it should remain so. However accreditation helps maintain some uniform standards in basic skills that would give employers the confidence that a high school graduate from Kansas is fairly equal to a graduate in New York, or South Dakota, or Maine, etc.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Yes....and it should remain so. However accreditation helps maintain some uniform standards in basic skills that would give employers the confidence that a high school graduate from Kansas is fairly equal to a graduate in New York, or South Dakota, or Maine, etc.
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and where does all that federal control end? It sounds to me like you're advocating for the feds to mandate what the schools may or may not teach.
 
Dittohead not! said:
and where does all that federal control end? It sounds to me like you're advocating for the feds to mandate what the schools may or may not teach.
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Can you try to go a bit deeper then goofy strawman arguments? I made no such suggestion. I merely agreed with the concept of accreditation for the sake of a national standard so that if if an employer requires a high school diploma he/she can be reasonably certain that each state actually teaches the basic skills of reading, writing, arithmetic, etc at a required level. Other then that...the feds should keep their noses out of public schools.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Can you try to go a bit deeper then goofy strawman arguments? I made no such suggestion. I merely agreed with the concept of accreditation for the sake of a national standard so that if if an employer requires a high school diploma he/she can be reasonably certain that each state actually teaches the basic skills of reading, writing, arithmetic, etc at a required level. Other then that...the feds should keep their noses out of public schools.
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So, other than setting a national standard, the feds shouldn't do anything else with the schools. Should they end the school lunch program then?
 
Millions wasted in federal school lunch program
Fresh fruits, vegetables winding up in trash
By: Ron Regan
Posted: 12:41 AM, Sep 16, 2014
Updated: 12:44 PM, Sep 16, 2014


CLEVELAND - An exclusive 5 On Your Side investigation reveals millions of dollars worth of fresh fruits and vegetables are being thrown in the trash in school lunch rooms in Ohio and across the country.

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It's operated by the U.S. Department of Agriculture and spends nearly $12 billion dollars a year and insists more students are eating fresh fruits and vegetables and the program is aimed at making students healthier.

The USDA points to a recent study by the Harvard School of Public Health to support its claim, but the same study also shows that 60 percent of fresh vegetables and 40 percent of fresh fruit are being thrown away.

And a recent study released by the National School Nutrition Association found 81.2 percent of schools surveyed indicated an increase in the amount of food being thrown away by students since the new nutrition standards went into effect two years ago.

The association also points to a study performed by researches at Cornell University and Brigham Young University that suggests some $4 million a day is being wasted.

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Millions wasted in federal school lunch program - newsnet5.com Cleveland​
 
jamesrage said:
Apparently not all kids are spoiled brats whose parents let them eat what ever they want and many other kids do like healthier food.

Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches - WSJ
When the federal government implemented new school-meal regulations in 2012, a majority of elementary-school students complained about the healthier lunches, but by the end of the school year most found the food agreeable, according to survey results released Monday.
The peer-reviewed study comes amid concerns that the regulations led schools to throw away more uneaten food and prompted some students to drop out of meal programs.
Researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago surveyed administrators at more than 500 primary schools about student reaction to the new meals in the 2012-2013 school year. They found that 70% agreed or strongly agreed that students, by the end of the school year, generally liked the new lunches, which feature more whole grains, vegetables and fruits, and lower fat levels.
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Healthier lunches???

I have to eat 8000 calories a day to maintain my weight....

Due to my metabolism your "healthy lunches" would starve me to death...

What do these fools want to do? kill half of their students in an attempt to control the weight of the overeaters - or those that don't understand they have a thyroid problem?

Do people actually believe people are fat because they eat too much?
 
Excon said:
Millions wasted in federal school lunch program
Fresh fruits, vegetables winding up in trash
By: Ron Regan
Posted: 12:41 AM, Sep 16, 2014
Updated: 12:44 PM, Sep 16, 2014


CLEVELAND - An exclusive 5 On Your Side investigation reveals millions of dollars worth of fresh fruits and vegetables are being thrown in the trash in school lunch rooms in Ohio and across the country.

[...]

It's operated by the U.S. Department of Agriculture and spends nearly $12 billion dollars a year and insists more students are eating fresh fruits and vegetables and the program is aimed at making students healthier.

The USDA points to a recent study by the Harvard School of Public Health to support its claim, but the same study also shows that 60 percent of fresh vegetables and 40 percent of fresh fruit are being thrown away.

And a recent study released by the National School Nutrition Association found 81.2 percent of schools surveyed indicated an increase in the amount of food being thrown away by students since the new nutrition standards went into effect two years ago.

The association also points to a study performed by researches at Cornell University and Brigham Young University that suggests some $4 million a day is being wasted.

[...]

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Millions wasted in federal school lunch program - newsnet5.com Cleveland​
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Good article and the video within the link was enlightening.

Thanks
 
Mr.Nick said:
Healthier lunches???

I have to eat 8000 calories a day to maintain my weight....

Due to my metabolism your "healthy lunches" would starve me to death...

What do these fools want to do? kill half of their students in an attempt to control the weight of the overeaters - or those that don't understand they have a thyroid problem?
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1. 8000 calories a day is far far faaar outside the norm. The average amount of calories the typical adult burns is in the 2000 calorie neighborhood.
2. But if you are burning 8000 calories a day, you can find the calories you need in the other two main meals of the day (breakfast and dinner), in addition to bringing extra food with you, or just packing your own lunch altogether.

Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with.

Do people actually believe people are fat because they eat too much?
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Yes, that's generally how one gains weight.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Healthier lunches???

I have to eat 8000 calories a day to maintain my weight....

Due to my metabolism your "healthy lunches" would starve me to death...

What do these fools want to do? kill half of their students in an attempt to control the weight of the overeaters - or those that don't understand they have a thyroid problem?

Do people actually believe people are fat because they eat too much?
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Calories in verses calories out determines if someone is fat or skinny. If you eat more calories then what your body burns then you will get fat.If you eat less calories then what you body burns then you will be skinny. Kids these lead a sedentary lifestyle.


If you are eating 8,000 calories a day just to maintain your weight and you are not a lumber jack or some other extremely labor intensive job you might want to have a doctor check that out. You might have a tape worm or some other problem.
 
jamesrage said:
Calories in verses calories out determines if someone is fat or skinny. If you eat more calories then what your body burns then you will get fat.If you eat less calories then what you body burns then you will be skinny. Kids these lead a sedentary lifestyle.


If you are eating 8,000 calories a day just to maintain your weight and you are not a lumber jack or some other extremely labor intensive job you might want to have a doctor check that out. You might have a tape worm or some other problem.
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I could wrap my head around 4000 calories a day, but 8000 just sounds nuts. According to this site if I do nothing but exercise (no breaks) over the course of eight hours (a nine to five job) I'll burn 3763 calories. Add to that 2000 for caloric maintenance and you've got 5763 calories. 8000 calories sounds a wee bit fudged to me.
 
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