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Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

Excon said:
And?



We do not need more Gov control.
We need less Gov control.
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... government was already controlling the content of the school lunch. They run the schools.
 
Excon said:
And?



We do not need more Gov control.
We need less Gov control.
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That is not the issue here.
The schools are and have been subsidizing the lunches for kids who need the program... there is nothing new about that.
The issue isn't should the schools feed the kids .
The issue is should the schools feed the kids healthy food or junk food.
You come down on the side of favoring junk food just to be contrary to anything Obama.
You say **** the health of the kids just to make some stupid political points.
Shame on you.
 
grip said:
For children who burn thousands of calories a day? I ate the paleo diet as a child, plus carbs galore and still didn't have enough.
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Kids these days are lot more sedimentary today.As kids most of us had mandatory gym class, we played outside most the day when we got home.If we wanted to go somewhere we walked or rode a bike, not ask mom or dad to give us a ride.Going to a friend's house back then meant playing in that friend's house or back yard, not sitting on the couch playing video games.
 
grip said:
Hey, you ask. We were beasts compared to today' s lazy little nerds. We road bikes, swam, played ball and ran every day in the heat. I had a six pack at 16yrs old and was a monster of an athlete consuming huge quantities of calories.
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Cool story, bro
 
Buck Ewer said:
Which would you rather your children ate for lunch?
Before:

Bean and cheese burrito (5.3 oz) with mozzarella cheese (1 oz)
Applesauce (1/4 cup)
Orange juice (4 oz)
2 percent milk (8 oz)

After:

Turkey (1 oz) and low-fat cheese (0.5 oz) sandwich on whole wheat bread
Refried beans (1/2 cup)
Jicama (1/4 cup)
Green pepper strips (1/4 cup)
Cantaloupe wedges (1/2 cup)
Skim milk (8 oz)
Mustard (9 grams)
Reduced fat mayonnaise (1 oz)
Low-fat ranch drip (1 oz)
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Which would you rather have:
Choices that might be wrong.
Dictates to ensure you live "right".
 
grip said:
These meals might be nutritionally deficient, if they don't provide enough protein, minerals and overall calories.
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Which doesn't mean they aren't better than what was offered before.
 
MrVicchio said:
Which would you rather have:
Choices that might be wrong.
Dictates to ensure you live "right".
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The choice is easy.
Healthier food for my kids.
Would you rather that the dictates are un-healthy food?
There was no choice before.
 
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the_recruit said:
Which doesn't mean they aren't better than what was offered before.
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Or even equal. I eat a fair amount of veggies but fruits can be high in sugar/calories, without adding the benefit of branched chain amino acids.
 
Excon said:
And?

We need less. Not more.
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Cart before the horse.

What you've said is (1) your belief and (2) anti-status quo. In a democracy, there's no particular compulsion for any individual or organization to act on your values unless you create one by building a consensus so powerful politicians have to respect it, which you haven't. Even if you had done such a thing, rocking the status quo requires political investment, of which any political actor has a finite amount. There's a sorting algorithm to where they should rock the status quo and where they should work with, through, or around it.

Given the overall state of education and public health in this country, there's nothing that suggests your policy is the one we should be pursuing right now.
 
grip said:
Or even equal.
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Huh?

grip said:
I eat a fair amount of veggies but fruits can be high in sugar/calories,
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And high in certain vitamins. And, yes, we should be mindful of the carb content in fruit just as in any other food.

grip said:
without adding the benefit of branched chain amino acids.
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Who said otherwise? This is why we eat protein sources in addition to fruits/veggies. Y'know....a balanced diet.
 
sangha said:
You criticized it because the fruits can be high in calories
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And low in long term calorie nutrition, such as proteins. Too much fruit is not a healthy diet.
 
Excon said:
Healthier?
See above Pic.
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Do you have a link to the actual school menus?Not photographs that mean nothing except for maybe the kid didn't want everything offered( assuming those photographs are actually from a school)? Anyone can take a plastic tray,stick something on it,take a picture of it and claim its school lunch.

Indoctrination is not a Government's job.
Or would you prefer that the Gov indoctrinate everybody to socialist ideals? Or how about liberal ideals?
Or maybe you want Gov to indoctrinate to Conservative ideals?
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Telling kids to eat healthy and serving healthy food is not anywhere near the same as pushing political ideology.

So again, we need less Gov control and less Gov influence.
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Isn't it government that orders food for the school cafeterias?
 
Buck Ewer said:
That is not the issue here.
The schools are and have been subsidizing the lunches for kids who need the program... there is nothing new about that.
The issue isn't should the schools feed the kids .
The issue is should the schools feed the kids healthy food or junk food.
You come down on the side of favoring junk food just to be contrary to anything Obama.
You say **** the health of the kids just to make some stupid political points.
Shame on you.
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Shame on you for misstating the position. The food they were receiving was not junk.
Secondly Gov involvement is part of the issue here. Period.


Buck Ewer said:
Would you contend that teaching is not the job of schools then?
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Another misstatement of position.
The Gov should not be teaching anything it does is correct/right/or good. That is indoctrination.




Morality Games said:
Cart before the horse.

What you've said is (1) your belief and (2) anti-status quo. In a democracy, there's no particular compulsion for any individual or organization to act on your values unless you create one by building a consensus so powerful politicians have to respect it, which you haven't. Even if you had done such a thing, rocking the status quo requires political investment, of which any political actor has a finite amount. There's a sorting algorithm to where they should rock the status quo and where they should work with, through, or around it.

Given the overall state of education and public health in this country, there's nothing that suggests your policy is the one we should be pursuing right now.
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No, that is what you said.

And it's a good thing we live in a Republic then.
 
MrVicchio said:
Which would you rather have:
Choices that might be wrong.
Dictates to ensure you live "right".
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No one's dictating anything to you. Don't like it, pack your child a lunch.

Schools already serve lunches. Schools already decide what to serve. That's all that's happening - a decision on what to serve for lunch. This is not a new restriction on your freedom. Your kids are being offered a healthier lunch than before. Quit your bitching. Save your faux outrage.
 
grip said:
And low in long term calorie nutrition, such as proteins. Too much fruit is not a healthy diet.
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"long term calorie nutrition"?

1/2 cup of cantaloupe is "too much fruit"?

ahh, now I see! You're just making crap up
 
Excon said:
Shame on you for misstating the position. The food they were receiving was not junk.
Secondly Gov involvement is part of the issue here. Period.
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If not junk then at least not as healthy. Fat kids don't need more fat in their diets ...they need less.



Excon said:
Another misstatement of position.
The Gov should not be teaching anything it does is correct/right/or good. That is indoctrination.
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The government / public schools has a duty to teach what foods are healthier choices. If by example ...all the better.
That is teaching, not indoctrination.
Stop and think for a moment ...You are arguing that the schools should feed kids less healthy food...
Is that really who you want to be?
Just to be anti-Obama?
Really?
 
Excon said:
Shame on you for misstating the position. The food they were receiving was not junk.
Secondly Gov involvement is part of the issue here. Period.



Another misstatement of position.
The Gov should not be teaching anything it does is correct/right/or good. That is indoctrination.





:naughty
No, that is what you said.

And it's a good thing we live in a Republic then.
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Doesn't matter if you call it a republic or a democracy. In this country, if you don't have a consensus to back you up, you don't have any power or ability to decide anything about policy.

I'm not sure where that "that is what you said" comment comes from.
 
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jamesrage said:
Do you have a link to the actual school menus?Not photographs that mean nothing except for maybe the kid didn't want everything offered( assuming those photographs are actually from a school)? Anyone can take a plastic tray,stick something on it,take a picture of it and claim its school lunch.
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If you do not want to believe them don't. That is on you.
But I need not provide more.
And of course I am going to select those that make the point.
So again, if you do not want to believe them that is on you.

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And if the kids have a choice, then offer them what they will eat. Not crap they wont even take.
And as noted by another, as well as on-line, more crap that they have to take is tossed. It is doing no good.


jamesrage said:
Telling kids to eat healthy and serving healthy food is not anywhere near the same as pushing political ideology.
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Yes it is. Pushing/teaching/indoctrinating anything the Gov does as right/good/healthy, etc... Is wrong.



jamesrage said:
Isn't it government that orders food for the school cafeterias?
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If it is, it didn't used to be.
We do not need any GOv involvement.
We need less.
 
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