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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Do you think the libs would go for that?
    Im sure there are plenty on this site that Im SURE would agree whole heartedlyl!

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Those libs you mention would live longer and healthier lives and help elect more libbos .
    So thats a yes from Nimby? No more cards or cash payments. Strictly service.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post


    (Just don't send the apple - wouldn't want the children to have to choke down any fruits or veggies).
    That isn't what my problem with this is, I love how you try to make this an "Anti-healthy" thing, because you have no ability to discuss the matter without making it emotion based.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Do you mean tasty or healthy?
    Both.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Not so sure I'd consider these lunches to be all that healthy. They are very carb-heavy, and not a whole lot of legitimate proteins(meat is rather scarce in the diet). Granted they are probably better than some of the stuff parents have been known to pack, but I'm not particularly comfortable with praising them either. I'm also extremely uncomfortable with some recent policies that allow some schools to override parental judgement when it comes to meals.
    Those would be "local" policies, which would have absolutely nothing to do with the actual regulations of the federal government and everything to do with those local schools either a) not understanding the policy (which is just silly since it really isn't that hard to understand) or b) those local schools having those policies.

    I can think of one such policy I don't agree with and that would be banning any lunches from home. This however, when looked into can be found in only one school/school district (that I've seen anyway), and it has been a policy for about a while now in that school/school district, at least 6 years, which is longer that the new federal guidelines.

    The preschools were not mandated to ban lunches from home either. Some chose to do so, for whatever reasons then blamed it on the new lunch guidelines. Heck, even some of the preschools have had the policies in place for longer than the federal school lunch guidelines, but some have just picked up on this and are trying to use them for political purposes. I do believe there could very well be some state guidelines for preschools/head start programs to not bring lunches from home due to several different concerns, including allergies, storage, and food quality (which may lead to problems for the program if a little kid ends up eating something bad brought from home).

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Both.
    I am not sure where you are going with this...

    ...but from what I remember, the food was relatively tasty and was not too bad for you depending on what foods/drink you chose (though they did not sell pop or candy).

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    For children who burn thousands of calories a day? I ate the paleo diet as a child, plus carbs galore and still didn't have enough.
    They shouldn't be getting all the Calories they burn from a single meal. They should be getting a good portion from breakfast, then more at dinner. If they are playing any sports, they should definitely also be getting some right after school, possibly during practice, and even after practice. What about afterschool snacks? And before anyone says anything about those families who can't afford it, those would be the most likely to eat everything they are given by the school because they know they can't get stuff later, unless they are just wanting to complain.

    How to Determine the Calorie Intake for Children | Healthy Eating | SF Gate

    And schools should not have to provide the extra calories required for children/teens to play sports. That really should be on the parents and/or the coaches. So average Calories for a growing 8 year old with average level of activity is going to be around 1600. The school provides 650 Calories for lunch and 500 calories for breakfast (assuming they eat breakfast at the school). That is 1150 calories of the 1600 calories that an active child needs per day, so long as they eat what is put on their plate. That means that the parents only have to provide another 550 calories between dinner and any after school snacks. Is that really unreasonable to expect parents to provide? Even at the lowest amounts, the school is still providing 500 and 350 calories, so 850 calories of the 1600. The school should probably not be providing the lowest amount though and if they are, that is on those districts and they need to shape up their program. For high school students, this increases to 1450 calories at the max being provided by the school meals each day, plus not only are at least some high schoolers allowed to leave campus for lunch, many high schools also allow a la carte options to be bought in addition to the normal meal. And the high schoolers can bring additional food from home.

    Now, in addition to those school lunch menus, at least in Kindergarten, although I believe most schools do this through elementary school at least, they are required to bring in snacks as well. Although most schools say these must be brought from home, many teachers also have some just in case stashes for those kids who might not have something. That adds more calories to the count as well. So, in addition to the school provided meals, the students will also be getting a snack that can provide them with another 100-200 calories (depending mainly on the parent and what they provide) during the school day.

    And if they aren't eating what is given to them, that is their issue, not the school's, especially if they are teenagers. Teenagers should know better. And I have yet to see any high schools that have a policy that they can't bring food from home, either as their meal or even to subsidize their meal from the school. Many high schools allow their students to leave campus for lunch, at least in older grades if not all grades.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And?

    We do not need more Gov control.
    We need less Gov control.
    School lunches have always been government controlled in what was served by the school. The only difference now is in which government entity has how much say in what is served.

    No school that I know of (K-12) bans school lunches (with the exception of that Little Academy (I think they are elementary school), which has had that policy for at least 6 years, making it a local policy of the principle there and enacted before the current federal guidelines were thought of).
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post


    Actual served meals.

    At a school that is taking the lazy approach. Complain to this particular school. Other schools have no issue actually serving in accordance with the guidelines.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Hey, you ask. We were beasts compared to today' s lazy little nerds. We road bikes, swam, played ball and ran every day in the heat. I had a six pack at 16yrs old and was a monster of an athlete consuming huge quantities of calories.
    In the past, school lunches averaged about the same as the guidelines now. Some less. This is why we have things like "after school snacks" and "a la cart" options. It is also why elementary schools have snack times.

    Some people are acting like there weren't always guidelines from at least some schools for how much food a student got given to them as a regular meal. Most schools have always been "pay this regular school lunch price to get this much food". If you wanted more food, you paid more money, usually using an a la carte menu or brought more food from home. This is especially true with high school. During my sophomore year, I was swimming or working out in the weight room in the mornings before school, swimming during school (PE II for me was a class where me and 3 other students, instructed by a coach, taught 6th graders how to swim and learned how to be a lifeguard in between our classes of the younger students), and doing normal swim practice after school. My junior year I had swimming after school and then work after swim practice. I still only got what was provided by the school in a regular meal (although mine were free or reduced for my time in high school) during lunch. I made up for it in the mornings with breakfast, after school, during meets (they always had healthy options for sale for the swimmers during meets), and during or after work.

    Lunches, in most schools, have always limited the quantity that students were given, and they found that this quantity calorie amount pretty much averaged right around the current calorie limits of the new guidelines.
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