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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which has what to do with that link? That link has to do with what schools are required to serve students, which despite what is being said, is only 1/2 cup of any combination of fruits and/or vegetables, and at least two other items. This means that at most, the federal program can only be blamed for 1/2 cup of food waste, and then only if the student is not eating any of the fruits or vegetables on their plate. The rest is due to the individual schools making decisions beyond the guidelines, for whatever reasons.

    While I haven't heard anything being said about this particular program, student had always been able to take what they want. The offer-versus-serve program began in schools in 1981, the goals were to reduce food waste and to allow students to select foods they prefer. Schools were required to serve 5 items, a meat/meat alterative, milk, grains/bread, and two servings of fruits/vegatables and students were required to take 3 of the 5 items offered.

    In essence not much has changed in the what schools were required to serve the students over the years.

    With the new program students are forced to take a 1/2 cup of fruits and/or vegetables which they may or may not eat, possibly making way for a chance of food waste if it wasn't their choice to take them in the first place. While we all know 1/2 a cup is not much, it may be defeating the primary goal of the program, allow students to select foods they prefer and reduce waste.

    I replied accordingly to a random link someone adds to a thread when they have
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    If that is the case....then why the bribe from the feds?
    Schools with more than 60% of free or reduced price meals, get a bigger bribe from the feds.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    educating the child is the best that could be done. It would be great if parents could be responsible and feed their children healthy meals but a lot of parents are lazy. And oddly enough it seems some parents hate the idea of their children living long healthy lives. Even more oddly is alot of people complain out the burden of obesity and diet related illness costs on our healthcare systems and yet are opposed to kids eating healthy. I guess if you oppose both you always have something to complain about. maybe thats the purpose.

    I suppose that's why one size fits all programs will never fit comfortably.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    While I haven't heard anything being said about this particular program, student had always been able to take what they want. The offer-versus-serve program began in schools in 1981, the goals were to reduce food waste and to allow students to select foods they prefer. Schools were required to serve 5 items, a meat/meat alterative, milk, grains/bread, and two servings of fruits/vegatables and students were required to take 3 of the 5 items offered.

    In essence not much has changed in the what schools were required to serve the students over the years.

    With the new program students are forced to take a 1/2 cup of fruits and/or vegetables which they may or may not eat, possibly making way for a chance of food waste if it wasn't their choice to take them in the first place. While we all know 1/2 a cup is not much, it may be defeating the primary goal of the program, allow students to select foods they prefer and reduce waste.

    I replied accordingly to a random link someone adds to a thread when they have
    nothing to say to what they quoted.
    Actually, students haven't always been able to only take what they want. There have been individual school programs in the past where students were simply given ready-to-serve meals and just threw away what was left. This was simply easier and/or cheaper for some schools. Most students were also "trained" to take certain foods as well, even if they weren't necessarily going to eat them. It's one of the reasons I generally went through the bar line in high school, because I had no desire to have half of the stuff that was served in the normal lunch line slapped on my plate.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
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    I have already stated in more then one post in this thread that the taxpayers should get to decide. Do try to keep up.
    And yet, along with choices a and b, you already chose c:

    c. A common sense mixture of both like they did before Moochelle's program existed. The kid's are not going to end up obese like Hillary Clinton merely over a school cafeteria serving Pizza or hamburgers once a week.
    It seems you're a bit inconsistent. On one hand, you think the taxpayer should choose, and on the other, your'e making the choice.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, students haven't always been able to only take what they want. There have been individual school programs in the past where students were simply given ready-to-serve meals and just threw away what was left. This was simply easier and/or cheaper for some schools. Most students were also "trained" to take certain foods as well, even if they weren't necessarily going to eat them. It's one of the reasons I generally went through the bar line in high school, because I had no desire to have half of the stuff that was served in the normal lunch line slapped on my plate.

    You would be wrong.

    If the students are required to select every item, the SFA is not using OVS.
    Under OVS, students must be allowed to decline items offered.

    You are simply changing the topic to a different program.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    You would be wrong.

    If the students are required to select every item, the SFA is not using OVS.
    Under OVS, students must be allowed to decline items offered.

    You are simply changing the topic to a different program.
    The students aren't required to select every item. They are given options. Some schools are requiring students to take more than they have to, but that is on the schools themselves, not the program.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The students aren't required to select every item. They are given options. Some schools are requiring students to take more than they have to, but that is on the schools themselves, not the program.
    You are talking about two different programs.

    OVS, Students have options and may select what they prefer, plus must take fruit and/or vegetables with the new regulations.

    Some schools are NOT using the OVS program, they give the students what is required by the federal government. It is not on the school, it's mandated by the law.

    Please link us to the "schools are requiring students to take more than they have to"

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Here's a copy of my daughter's school lunch menu from this week:

    http://district.ops.org/Portals/0/Bu...rKAug18_22.pdf

    Monday- Hamburger, fries, pears
    Tuesday- Cheese pizza, salad, apple
    Wednesday- Soft taco, corn, banana
    Thursay- Cheese quesadilla, cherry tomatoes, kiwi
    Friday - Grilled chilli lime chicken, brown rice, red beans, oranges


    With the exception of Friday, I don't see any issue why most kids, my own included, wouldn't eat most of those items. Unless of course their parents don't parent and let the child decide what is right to eat. My daughter will usually whine that she doesn't like something, and it's most likely something she ate and liked before, so she either eats it or doesn't and gets no snacks. I will make her try new things and if she doesn't like it fine, but she won't know if she does or doesn't like it without trying.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    There is no way you are convincing me that students like lunches that do not taste good. Now, if these healthy kip inches taste good..then I am quite sure they like them.

    Having said that, I would like to see the nutritional content of these 'healthy lunches' before I would call them 'healthy'.

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