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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Yea because fruits veggies and whole grains are prison menu items
    On the food front there's little difference between prison and the regime of the food police.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    On the food front there's little difference between prison and the regime of the food police.
    Schools offering healthy choices is not food police.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Schools offering healthy choices is not food police.
    The Ministry of Menu Enforcement has spoken.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Considering the fact that the feds are bribing the school districts with utter millions of dollars in taxpayer money, the voters/taxpayers should get to decide.
    then, would you suggest a national referendum?

    Do you think kids should be served:

    a. junk food
    b. healthful food

    Vote for one.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, most of the noise has died down.
    You have nothing newer to show that more students/schools are opting out of the school lunch program.
    No one is being forced to eat the food, as no one has ever been forced to eat any school lunches.
    But they are being given healthier options because they are better for the students' health and their ability to learn.
    Yes, that would be correct because students are out for summer.

    Nothing newer than the July 1, 2014 or this one only 3 weeks ago July 28, 2014

    That would also be correct, no one is being forced to eat but OTOH they also aren't being forced to buy lunch, having the option to bring lunch in, whatever they want because it's better for them to be satisfied and full.


    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Schools did not lose a lot of money. They simply were losing money and opted out.
    Schools losing $10,000 a month or $200,000 in one year is not a lot, amazing.
    Some people might believe that is a lot of money to lose especially those that work on the school budget trying to make every dollar work.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This is anecdotal.
    Thank you but I don't agree. New studies are currently on record noting the new federal regulations as named in the article.
    Here's a few links:

    Juliana Cohen - School lunch waste among middle school student... [Am J Prev Med. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI

    WM McCarthy - Student receptivity to new school meal offerings: A... [Prev Med. 2014] - PubMed - NCBI

    Dr. Price http://byuresearch.org/home/download...dprice2011.pdf
    https://www.lds.org/church/news/byu-...lunch?lang=eng


    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Kids have always thrown away some school foods.
    Really, how much?

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Thank you but I don't agree. New studies are currently on record noting the new federal regulations as named in the article.
    Here's a few links:

    Juliana Cohen - School lunch waste among middle school student... [Am J Prev Med. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI

    WM McCarthy - Student receptivity to new school meal offerings: A... [Prev Med. 2014] - PubMed - NCBI

    Dr. Price http://byuresearch.org/home/download...dprice2011.pdf
    https://www.lds.org/church/news/byu-...lunch?lang=eng

    Really, how much?
    So, they really don't know. In fact, the first one is a study for waste that was occurring prior to the new standards, which shows that a lot of food was already being wasted by children (the new standards went into effect in 2010, the research was done from 2007-2009, only the analyses of the data was done after the new standards went into effect). The second one didn't compare the waste, only selected to track how much fruit and vegetable waste there was, which means that we have no clue how that compared to waste of food from before. Perhaps they are eating more of their other food choices than before. Maybe the fruits and veggies are now the main thing being thrown away as compared to before. We don't really know, but the research from before shows that there was a lot of waste of school lunch before the new standards came about.

    The other research is actually more interesting and doesn't show anything I'm not familiar with. Yes, children have to have some incentives to eat/try new foods usually, particularly veggies and fruits. I wouldn't quite go with actual monetary bribes for eating the food but think the tokens are a good idea, especially for trying the different foods.

    As for how much, that first study you posted gives a small idea, at least for middle school students of how much was getting wasted.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Yes, that would be correct because students are out for summer.

    Nothing newer than the July 1, 2014 or this one only 3 weeks ago July 28, 2014

    That would also be correct, no one is being forced to eat but OTOH they also aren't being forced to buy lunch, having the option to bring lunch in, whatever they want because it's better for them to be satisfied and full.

    Schools losing $10,000 a month or $200,000 in one year is not a lot, amazing.
    Some people might believe that is a lot of money to lose especially those that work on the school budget trying to make every dollar work.
    Offer vs Serve is available for students, as is the option of having salad/fruit bars (which is what my son had last year in San Diego) and family style meal options, where the child only has to take 1/2 cup of fruit or veggies with every meal. 1/2 cup is not that much.

    http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/defaul...SP57-2014a.pdf
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    ". . . a majority of elementary-school students complained about the healthier lunches, but by the end of the school year most found the food agreeable . . ."

    In other words, after a year of hunger, most students were desperate enough to choke down the prison menu items.
    The food they are eating is prison food?
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The food they are eating is prison food?
    Please see earlier posts.
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