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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It works with people who are reasonable and understand logic.

    With others, not so much
    I know what you mean, that's why I posted the Government Report addressing plate waste--or foods thrown away rather than consumed by students.

    Thanks for the reply

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    roguenuke:The teaching is happening in those schools.

    What schools are 'those schools?


    That all looks good, but is it really happening in 'most schools', anyway to prove this?
    I found no evidence with the 32 people who responded to the question on FB, who live in 4 different states. Or in my own family.
    Well how about the fact that I saw it last year since I have a son in school? Plus, there is evidence of it happening.

    Highlights, Nutrition Education in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools

    If it isn't happening, then that is the fault of the states or districts that are not ensuring their schools are teaching it.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Glad you understand.

    That is the way I read the article myself, I never said they could not bring in junk food.

    You are advocating the healthy lunch program, but may not believe in the integrity of it by supplying unhealthy items to an entire class of students.

    roguenuke "I provided a good amount of snacks for my son's class last year, including cookies, cupcakes, juice, candy, and other things".

    Are you contributing to childhood obesity by providing sugary treats for students? Do the other parents know you are giving their children sugary treats?

    It's a good thing until schools start losing money because the food isn't selling and goes to waste. Vendors will not want to stock the machines without a profit. Have you ever stood at a vending machine, having many items purchased but see those lonely apples, carrots sticks, pears screaming for someone to buy them.

    Yes, this is happening and that is why we have -

    "Nationwide, student participation in the National School Lunch Program declined by 1.2 million students (or 3.7 percent) from school year 2010-2011 through school year 2012-2013, after having increased steadily for many years. This decrease was driven primarily by a decline of 1.6 million students eating school lunch who pay full price for meals"
    U.S. GAO - School Lunch: Implementing Nutrition Changes Was Challenging and Clarification of Oversight Requirements Is Needed

    And more schools opting out of the lunch program again this year.

    There are ways to apply a new program, pushing it quickly onto the schools certainly could have been done differently or at a slower pace. We know schools have scarified in many ways to keep the doors open, adding new lunch guidelines added cost to many school budgets. We also have no evidence the funds received by the schools from the federal program are going back into feeding the children.

    Hmmm, find ways to make them more hungry? Sure, have several lunch periods and the student can select one each day when they are hungry. Makes things much more difficult for the teacher adjusting the lunch schedule around the student hunger pains makes no sense, so how would you get an entire room full of children hungry at the same time?

    Schools have wasted much needed money on this program, student are dropping out at an accelerated speed, food is being wasted as reported by the government, schools are opting out - all for what? Many schools had salad bars, healthy items along side their regular menu, food choices for all.
    First of all, if the parents are doing what they are supposed to be and actually paying attention to what their children are doing and talking to the teacher, then yes, those other parents knew exactly what was going on during the school day for their children since we dropped off and picked up our children every day from right in front of their classrooms, which was where the signup sheets were for providing goodies for the students. But then along with those unhealthy snacks there were also plenty of healthy snacks as well, including apples, grapes, bananas, graham crackers, and other things that the children could try.

    Second, what grades were those students in? This is important because high school students are notorious for not liking change, particularly when it comes to something they feel is an "injustice", and especially if adults across the country are saying "they aren't going to like the more nutritious foods". Well no they aren't if you continue to say things like that.

    As I've said, children will eat if they are hungry, particularly in younger grades. I have no sympathy for high school or even middle school aged students who refuse to eat their lunches. They are old enough to know better.

    In elementary schools across the country, students are given snack times. Many have adjusted their schedules to have PE/recess right before lunch, which would make it more likely for students to be hungry right as they go to lunch without interrupting class time.

    Show how much money is being wasted exactly. The stats are in and only a few hundred schools have opted out, out of over 13000 school districts in the US. That is a very small amount.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    After being indoctrinated throughout the school year that the lunches are so much better, of course those results would be expected.
    So that the idea that balanced meals are better for you than junk food is indoctrination? LMAO.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So that the idea that balanced meals are better for you than junk food is indoctrination? LMAO.
    You are late to the conversation.
    Weird.
    So for your edification, that is not what was said.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are late to the conversation.
    Weird.
    So for your edification, that is not what was said.
    You mean you never posted this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon
    After being indoctrinated throughout the school year that the lunches are so much better, of course those results would be expected.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You mean you never posted this?
    Of course I said that.
    That speaks to the reported "like" of the children as perceived by the administrators. Not to thinking something is healthy or even better as you absurdly put it.

    Why you have confused the two is beyond me.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So that the idea that balanced meals are better for you than junk food is indoctrination? LMAO.
    No, no, it's that balanced meals suggested by a Democrat are better for you than junk food.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You seem to think this is a problem. It isn't. I'm all for it being a voluntary program that is tied to money for those lunches rather than a mandated thing by the federal government. My point all along has been if school districts are wanting the money, then they should have to accept the guidelines that come with it.

    In reality, only a few hundred districts out of tens of thousands across the country have dropped the program, refused the money. Around 0.15% of the overall schools in the country. That means the program isn't a failure. Many schools simply aren't willing to give it a chance for various reasons. Some simply can't afford to do so because of their own cost/benefit analysis. In reality though, it isn't likely that many of those schools are going to get their students buying school lunch again just by dropping the program because in general, people get used to something and stick with it. Plus, most of those complaining are high school students who don't stick around all that long in a school district. They graduate, move on.



    I'm all for bringing your own lunches if the students don't want to eat what is provided. It is their choice.
    If the taxpayers in those districts had to option to vote on whether or not their district would accept the bribes, then you would have a point. The district school boards don't necessarily give a sh*t. As far as they are concerned, it's manna from heaven. So what if a significant port of the lunches end up drawing flies in the dumpster.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    People are actually complaining that public schools are feeding children a healthy diet. Alright then.
    I believe people are complaining that much of that food goes in the trash.
    the poll us bogus though as it claims to state kid's views but its actually principle's views.
    Next time compare dumpster tonage or something valid.

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