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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

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    as someone who lost a lot of weight and works daily to keep it off, i agree that it won't fix the problem. however, even a discussion about school lunches turns into a damned partisan fistfight. it's just one more indicator that the way our system is set up is not working, and needs serious tweaking.

    Serious tweaking, starting with redistricting, ending with voting a bunch of hyper partisan scoundrels out of office and starting over. Congress is dysfunctional and has been for quite some time now.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

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    Serious tweaking, starting with redistricting, ending with voting a bunch of hyper partisan scoundrels out of office and starting over. Congress is dysfunctional and has been for quite some time now.
    would like this twice if i could.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Which would you rather your children ate for lunch?
    Before:

    Bean and cheese burrito (5.3 oz) with mozzarella cheese (1 oz)
    Applesauce (1/4 cup)
    Orange juice (4 oz)
    2 percent milk (8 oz)

    After:

    Turkey (1 oz) and low-fat cheese (0.5 oz) sandwich on whole wheat bread
    Refried beans (1/2 cup)
    Jicama (1/4 cup)
    Green pepper strips (1/4 cup)
    Cantaloupe wedges (1/2 cup)
    Skim milk (8 oz)
    Mustard (9 grams)
    Reduced fat mayonnaise (1 oz)
    Low-fat ranch drip (1 oz)
    You're making the assumption that the foods listed above are actually the foods listed, instead of. . .

    "Turkey" - processed, reconstituted turkey meat (turkey meat, sodium nitrite, malic acid, sodium stearol lactate, TBHQ), partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or corn oil and/or motor oil, Green 50, . . .

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What did the polled administrators say again?
    What does that have to do with whether or not the kids are indoctrinated?
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Where do you think the feds get the money? It's taxpayer money. The feds have no business sticking their noses into state and local school lunches.
    Taxpayer money that the feds are in charge of deciding where it goes. Don't like it? Then elect people who will make the changes you want (probably is going to take more than just you though). Until then, they get to decide where/who it goes to and under what conditions as long as they are constitutional. And there is nothing unconstitutional about putting stipulations on money offered to state public schools to aid with feeding school children. Regulations on testing and other education issues could easily be considered more the "fed interfering with state issues" (which I don't agree with but can see the argument) than this is.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it was part of the Reagan expansion of the failed drug war.

    A Brief History of the Drug War | Drug Policy Alliance

    her campaign kept the issue so front and center that it helped to propel this expansion.

    now we can go back and forth all day about the minute differences between Nancy Reagan's campaign somehow doesn't offend small government sensibilities in the way that Michelle Obama's does, but it would be an utterly ridiculous discussion. it doesn't get much more big nanny government than the drug war.

    Hillary Clinton's push for health care was kind of unprecedented for a first lady, though. i'm not criticizing the desire to finally give up on our stupid employer based health care system, but i could at least understand those who support small government being alarmed by it. however, this thread only exists for partisan reasons, and you know it. somebody posts it to say, "wow look, what my team did worked," and then the other team spends 40 pages fighting the enemy. it's just tiresome. we're all arguing about serving a kid a ****ing salad at school.





    i am absolutely not suggesting that. there has been absolute foaming partisan rage for decades now. ****, i was even a rabid right winger under Clinton. and the idiots even made a snuff film about Bush. utter lunacy.

    i will say that the temper tantrum thrown by the right under Obama, though, has annoyed me to the point where i am just completely and utterly disgusted. we have to change our political system. i've never seen this much gridlock and nearly complete obstruction. it's caused by gerrymandering, and a two party system. we need to fix both.



    agree about Hillary's unprecedented role being big. but this is a school lunch program. it's not even in the same sport.



    as someone who lost a lot of weight and works daily to keep it off, i agree that it won't fix the problem. however, even a discussion about school lunches turns into a damned partisan fistfight. it's just one more indicator that the way our system is set up is not working, and needs serious tweaking.

    I think we will just have to agree to disagree on most. I'll just address the following: "i will say that the temper tantrum thrown by the right under Obama, though, has annoyed me to the point where i am just completely and utterly disgusted. we have to change our political system. i've never seen this much gridlock and nearly complete obstruction. it's caused by gerrymandering, and a two party system. we need to fix both."

    I am as annoyed as you are at the hyperpartisanship of the last couple of decades. However I cannot blame it on gerrymandering or a so-called two party system. Gerrymandering has been around pretty much from the beginning. The hyperpartisanship has only been around a couple of decades. And to be honest, I don't think we will ever get rid of it. And realistically we do not have a two party system. There are many more then two parties. What we do have is a two ideology system.......liberal versus conservative. The political parties that most successfully advocate for those two ideologies are going to be the dominant political parties. Historically at one point it was the democrats and the whigs. And the only alternative system is the parliamentary system such as is followed in Europe. However have you ever listened to CSPAN when they were covering a parliamentary meeting? It is hyperpartisanship on steroids. It comes much closer to fist fights then what we normally see in congress.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Many schools were able to either keep their old lunch menus or the vast majority of their old menus with only a few changes, such as changing out for lower fat milk options, giving smaller meat portions, or changing regular spaghetti to whole wheat spaghetti.
    What schools were able to keep their old menus and which schools only had to make small changes?

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I think we will just have to agree to disagree on most. I'll just address the following: "i will say that the temper tantrum thrown by the right under Obama, though, has annoyed me to the point where i am just completely and utterly disgusted. we have to change our political system. i've never seen this much gridlock and nearly complete obstruction. it's caused by gerrymandering, and a two party system. we need to fix both."

    I am as annoyed as you are at the hyperpartisanship of the last couple of decades. However I cannot blame it on gerrymandering or a so-called two party system. Gerrymandering has been around pretty much from the beginning. The hyperpartisanship has only been around a couple of decades. And to be honest, I don't think we will ever get rid of it. And realistically we do not have a two party system. There are many more then two parties. What we do have is a two ideology system.......liberal versus conservative. The political parties that most successfully advocate for those two ideologies are going to be the dominant political parties. Historically at one point it was the democrats and the whigs. And the only alternative system is the parliamentary system such as is followed in Europe. However have you ever listened to CSPAN when they were covering a parliamentary meeting? It is hyperpartisanship on steroids. It comes much closer to fist fights then what we normally see in congress.
    i'd say that the gerrymandering has been getting worse over time, or just enough to guarantee very polarized districts. also, the rise of very partisan media on both sides has really stirred the pot, and now groups of stirred up people can instantly meet others just like tham and get even more stirred up and pissed off. it used to be a lot more difficult to organize groups polarized partisans, and impossible to have them all interact constantly in real time. throw in the fact that there are only two viable choices in any given race, and there you have it. at least that's my opinion.

    i'm not saying that the internet is something negative at all (quite the contrary,) or that hyperpartisan idiots shouldn't be able to broadcast whatever they want, but this probably has a lot to do with why the 1990s, 2000s, and now the teens have been really going over the partisan cliff.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    What does that have to do with whether or not the kids are indoctrinated?
    And again.
    Do you think the administrators actually polled their students, or are reflecting their own personal beliefs?
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Baloney. If some conservative mogul were to suggest it, you'd love the idea.
    Conservative mogul? Similar to your idol Soros?
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