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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Bicycle View Post
    Nobody wants to address my question.

    Which is...

    If we are beefing up these programs because hunger is such a huge issue...

    #1, why do we need more money to feed them less food, and
    #2, why do we feed fewer calories, if kids aren't eating when they go home?

    Does that make sense?

    nope, it doesn't. Hunger is not the same as excess caloric intake. It's one or the other, not both.
    Those are good questions, but the thrust of Michelle's program is childhood obesity, not hunger.

    I suppose we could just send Plumpynut home with those children who want it. It's cheap and what the heck, when bought retail (still cheap) it'll support the real hunger initiatives around the globe.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Those are good questions, but the thrust of Michelle's program is childhood obesity, not hunger.

    I suppose we could just send Plumpynut home with those children who want it. It's cheap and what the heck, when bought retail (still cheap) it'll support the real hunger initiatives around the globe.

    The lunch program itself is in place to feed the hungry...a huge percentage of kids who make use of it receive free/reduced lunches, and it is funded with millions upon millions of taxpayers dollars...and always the justification for more $$ is that we are battling child hunger, which is allegedly getting worse and worse and worse...so we need more and more and more $$ to beef up these programs to feed those starving kids.

    Enter Michelle. Suddenly, we need more money to battle OBESITY, not hunger...yet the programs are funded with the same $$$$. How can we address childhood hunger, if we use the money meant to combat it to battle childhood obesity, and remove calories from the meals provided?

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Apparently not all kids are spoiled brats whose parents let them eat what ever they want and many other kids do like healthier food.

    Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches - WSJ
    When the federal government implemented new school-meal regulations in 2012, a majority of elementary-school students complained about the healthier lunches, but by the end of the school year most found the food agreeable, according to survey results released Monday.
    The peer-reviewed study comes amid concerns that the regulations led schools to throw away more uneaten food and prompted some students to drop out of meal programs.
    Researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago surveyed administrators at more than 500 primary schools about student reaction to the new meals in the 2012-2013 school year. They found that 70% agreed or strongly agreed that students, by the end of the school year, generally liked the new lunches, which feature more whole grains, vegetables and fruits, and lower fat levels.
    I see, so when kids reject meals that are forced on that them they don't like it's not that this is an inappropriate program pushed by an authoritarian federal government that wants to dictate every tiny aspect of our lives. It's that the kids are spoiled because their parents didn't raise them right.

    I say f*** the government and f*** anyone who supports this oppressive nonsense. All you junior grade totalitarians and your kids can eat these meals if you like. It has gotten to be parental malpractice to send your children to public schools for a number of reasons, and this is just another reason. I urge my friends to seek alternatives before public school officials harm their children.

    BTW, survey the administrators. Oh yeah, that's going to give us good data. PFFT!

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Bicycle View Post
    The left insists that hunger among children is increasing,
    I couldn't give less of a **** what the left says. I give a **** about facts, and here they are:

    Are One In Five American Children Hungry? - Forbes

    The one-in-five childhood hunger figure should raise red flags for three reasons.

    First, studies of poor households show that almost half own their own homes, three quarters own a car, and almost all have a color television. The American poor seem to have money for things other than food for their children, if the one-in-five statistic is to be believed.

    Second, advocacy groups (with Michelle Obama as a leading spokesperson) now appear to have decided that the problem is childhood obesity, not hunger. The children, especially of the poor, are not going to bed hungry. They are eating too much of the wrong foods.

    Third, if the one-in-five statistic is correct, the public food stamps and school free lunch programs must be colossal failures. Despite their wide reach into poor communities, they apparently leave more than thirty percent of school children “struggling with hunger.”
    The USDA classifies households as “food insecure” if they report worrying about not having enough money to buy food, if they substitute cheaper foods, skip meals, or eat less for financial reasons. If they do these things frequently, they are classified as “very low food secure.”

    Slightly over 21 percent of households are “food insecure.” This is the one-in-five statistic we hear from the media and advocacy groups.

    The one-in-five figure is for all households, many of which consist only of adults. If we limit the sample to households with children, ten percent of them are classified as food insecure. If any group wishes to use the broadest possible measure of children’s “struggle for food,” the ten percent figure would be it.
    People aren't going hungry in the US. People are getting fatter and eating worse. Those are facts. The facts assure us that lowering the caloric intake of children and supplying them with better food is a net positive.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Bicycle View Post
    These programs are funded under the umbrella of 'feeding the hungry'. If we are serving the hungriest children, then why are we REDUCING CALORIES?
    You don't feed the hungry with a single meal. You split it up. Not to mention, most students at school are not "the hungry". The change in the nutrition guidelines isn't aimed at feeding the hungry, but rather in feeding all school age children healthy food.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Bicycle View Post
    Nobody wants to address my question.

    Which is...

    If we are beefing up these programs because hunger is such a huge issue...

    #1, why do we need more money to feed them less food, and
    #2, why do we feed fewer calories, if kids aren't eating when they go home?

    Does that make sense?

    nope, it doesn't. Hunger is not the same as excess caloric intake. It's one or the other, not both.
    Calories have been reduced by 7.

    How long are you going to whine about 7 calories?
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    As the thread progressed from the above post, we have seen everything you said just isn't true.
    Not really, at least not what most of those against these guidelines are claiming. For instance, the "no lunches from home" rule in the school was in place, put there by the principle (and apparently not that controversial if the parents of the school haven't made a big deal about it), for over 6 years at least (possibly many more).

    The only difference is in what foods can be served. The parents nor students do not have any more or less power in what is served during school lunch than they ever did.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not really, at least not what most of those against these guidelines are claiming. For instance, the "no lunches from home" rule in the school was in place, put there by the principle (and apparently not that controversial if the parents of the school haven't made a big deal about it), for over 6 years at least (possibly many more).

    The only difference is in what foods can be served. The parents nor students do not have any more or less power in what is served during school lunch than they ever did.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not really,

    Yes. Really!
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Didn't contradict anything I posted. The school still decides what goes into school offered lunches, only they have guidelines they must follow if they want to have additional funding for those lunches from the federal government. The parents still didn't get to decide in the past anymore than they do now what goes into school lunches. They are still free to send lunches with their children however in most schools/school districts.
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