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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    That's right the thread is about how 70% elementary kids like the new lunches, which feature more whole grains, vegetables and fruits, and lower fat levels. The problem was never bad school lunches, it's parents that let their kids eat too much junk and stay in the house all day.

    What's to stop parents from brown bagging a lunch full of carbs, fats and sweets for their kid?
    Nothing is stopping the parents. I'll have to review your posts because I don't even know what you're complaining about if that's how you feel. Are you actually advocating that there be laws in effect that force parents to provide meals for their children in a certain way?

    I know that the complaints in this thread have become incoherent and contradictory. But in your case it seems like you're shouting at the heavens and it's somehow Michelle Obama's fault when a parent gives their kid an unhealthy meal.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They don't speak to things that are done by parents, that is the point. These are things that parents can do.

    Schools are responsible and must control what happens in the class rooms. Therefore schools control what the parents do within the class rooms.


    Pretty sure nothing mentions parents sending treats to their kid's class at all, not voluntarily.

    And that is the point, parents still have the options they had before, as do some older children.
    As you may have read in the last couple years, many schools have all ready elected to ban cupcakes and other sugary snacks for birthdays parties, are recommending kids bring pencils, paper items, or they get extra recess time. W00T It's not something new, they are tightening up the law.

    Wash. school district complies with Michelle O’s lunch rules and bans birthday cupcakes - EAGnews.org powered by Education Action Group Foundation, Inc.
    No more cupcake parties: School district bans birthday treats | News | Seattle City And Press
    18 Healthy Snack Ideas for School Parties
    UNREAL: School Obeys Michelle Obama’s Lunch Rules And Bans Birthday Cupcakes Brought From Home! | LibertyNEWS.com


    It is the schools that are being limited, and if they choose to accept the additional money only. If they don't want the extra money, they can turn it down and not abide by the rules.
    This went into effect 23 days ago. Change is coming to schools involved in this program if they are enforcing the rules that comes with receiving the federal monies.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Taht no one wants.

    So...you are full on board with the idea that we should replace ALL food stamps and government subsistence with the Mo'bama prepackaged food plans, right?
    Says who? And who said anything about food stamps, though healthy is better than unhealthy. You are leaping down a huge exaggerate rat hole here.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Schools are responsible and must control what happens in the class rooms. Therefore schools control what the parents do within the class rooms.

    As you may have read in the last couple years, many schools have all ready elected to ban cupcakes and other sugary snacks for birthdays parties, are recommending kids bring pencils, paper items, or they get extra recess time. W00T It's not something new, they are tightening up the law.

    Wash. school district complies with Michelle O’s lunch rules and bans birthday cupcakes - EAGnews.org powered by Education Action Group Foundation, Inc.
    No more cupcake parties: School district bans birthday treats | News | Seattle City And Press
    18 Healthy Snack Ideas for School Parties
    UNREAL: School Obeys Michelle Obama’s Lunch Rules And Bans Birthday Cupcakes Brought From Home! | LibertyNEWS.com

    This went into effect 23 days ago. Change is coming to schools involved in this program if they are enforcing the rules that comes with receiving the federal monies.
    Individual schools do have control over that, including individual school districts. The federal guidelines however are not responsible for individual schools or school districts going overboard and/or misinterpreting the guidelines put out.

    What went into effect at the beginning of this month? So far, all I've seen is the fact that sodium levels are lowered, not that people can't have cupcakes from home. In fact, the school guidelines that went into effect this month deal with snacks being sold at school, not sent in from home. Again, the federal program is wrongly being blamed for a school's or district's policy change.

    New federal rules require healthier school snacks - CNN.com

    Children will still be allowed to bring in any snacks from home that they choose, and parents can continue to deliver treats for birthday celebrations or holidays to the classroom. Special fund-raising events such as bake sales are also allowed.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Nothing is stopping the parents. I'll have to review your posts because I don't even know what you're complaining about if that's how you feel. Are you actually advocating that there be laws in effect that force parents to provide meals for their children in a certain way?

    I know that the complaints in this thread have become incoherent and contradictory. But in your case it seems like you're shouting at the heavens and it's somehow Michelle Obama's fault when a parent gives their kid an unhealthy meal.
    I'm saying that gov't has no business trying to enforce strict dietary codes in our school system, ala Michelle. They can make lunches with some healthy options and choices, like what they used to.

    The problem with kids increasing in obesity are what parents feed them and promote as physical activity. And those are NOT actions that can be regulated, merely promoted.

    Is that clear or are you still confused?
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Child hunger isn't an all time high. Child obesity is at an all time high. I'm pretty familiar with healthy diets and have on a number of occasion beaten some posters senseless because they simply do not know what they are discussing. A simple healthy diet is no more expensive than going to McDonald's. However, people have been indoctrinated into thinking that healthy food is expensive. This has been done by corporations and to some extent the laissez faire mentality of many capitalists.

    The poor are the most affected by this approach. They are continually told that going to a local farmer's market is something the rich do. They are told that prepared foods are inexpensive. The reality is that prepared foods are overtaxed (which means the government gets their share) and produced with low quality ingredients (which means corporations make a killing) high in corn fructose.

    All of that ensures that they walk like sheep into the nearest big box store where they cater to the poor and make sure they get fatter. They are told that they can't afford locally produced food and then they are told that it's easier, better, faster to buy it pre-cooked when that just couldn't be further from the truth. I find it outright abhorrent how the lower class has been taught to love ****ty food with the banners of 'Murica and Freedom waving high.

    The Founding Fathers would have been disgusted if they saw the word freedom being used to turn our population into a bunch of fat ****s who couldn't defend the country if it needed them. Well, they would have been disgusted, then they would have cut the heads off the owners of Kraft, Coca-Cola, Mars & P&G.

    The best part is that it's clearly and without a doubt the beloved capitalism of old that right wingers are least likely to be blamed for obesity in this country. Kids have been conditioned through generations of constant ad bombardments to believe that 24-7 television, ordering pizza and sitting all day eating and playing video games is normal behavior for kids. There isn't a single period in human history where being inside for 10 hours a day eating and staring a single spot on the houses' wall was normal child behavior. So then who do we blame? The parents. Are you kidding?

    The parents were conditioned to do that too in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s and now the 10s by their baby boomer grandparents or parents. So how do you criticize a parenting style that wasn't an issue for at least 60 years? You don't. You cut it at the source and restrict the way ads are presented and where they can be presented or you create initiatives for companies to improve their products.

    Give tax rebates for companies who make healthier products. Reschedule advertising on children's television (for example: instead of a 24 mins show with 4 commercial breaks - have a 6 min commercial break between shows.). Lower taxes on local farmers. Create bus routes that specifically lead the poor to cheap food markets. Bring back cooking classes in schools, make them compulsory and use them as an excuse to teach healthy diets. Those are really simple options that can help the populace make better choices regarding what to eat.

    The left insists that hunger among children is increasing, which is the reason we need to fund more and more foodstamps:

    More Than A Fifth Of America

    "Several independent advocates and policy experts on hunger said that they had been bracing for the latest report to show deepening shortages, but that they were nevertheless astonished by how much the problem has worsened. "This is unthinkable. It's like we are living in a Third World country," said Vicki Escarra, president of Feeding America, the largest organization representing food banks and other emergency food sources.

    "It's frankly just deeply upsetting," said James D. Weill, president of the Washington-based Food and Action Center. As the economy eroded, Weill said, "you had more and more people getting pushed closer to the cliff's edge. Then this huge storm came along and pushed them over."

    Obama, who pledged during last year's presidential campaign to eliminate hunger among children by 2015, reiterated that goal on Monday. "My Administration is committed to reversing the trend of rising hunger," the president said in a statement. "

    Hunger a growing problem in America, USDA reports

    So, please explain to me...how do we battle hunger by HUGELY depleting the caloric count of government-offered meal replacements?

    That are funded in teh first place under the auspices of 'CHILDHOOD HUNGER'???

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Oh no Michelle ate short ribs,That must mean she is wrong that kids should eat healthy food. I guess that means we should let schools contract with McDonalds and Little Debbie to serve school lunches and breakfast.
    Perhaps Moochelle should just practice what she preaches.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    "Obama, who pledged during last year's presidential campaign to eliminate hunger among children by 2015, reiterated that goal on Monday. "My Administration is committed to reversing the trend of rising hunger," the president said in a statement......he ticked off steps that Congress and the administration have taken, or are planning, including increases in food stamp benefits and $85 million Congress just freed up through an appropriations bill to experiment with feeding more children during the summer, when subsidized school breakfasts and lunches are unavailable."

    So how does this ^^^^^ work with the concept that it's better to reduce the calories in the only meals (allegedly) that children may be receiving at all?

    Hint...it doesn't. Polar opposite views, held by the same admin. Embraced interchangeably as suits them to secure more money and place further restrictions upon the citizenry.

    Hunger a growing problem in America, USDA reports

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, I work in a grocery store, and it's just disgusting to have to watch people buy $50 worth of Red Bull on food stamps.
    All of those energy drinks should be disallowed from purchasing with food stamps.

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