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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I give calories and you got ALL that, what an imagination!
    Well it's taking the haters some real creativity to conjour up the contradictory complaints they've thrown out.

    Too many calories, not enough calories, food is getting thrown away, food is too plain.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    How do you know she doesn't provide a sack lunch for her kids? If you work in the school and personally observe the Obama kids meal intakes by all means say so and provide the evidence. I'm an evidence based person so if you're going to say Michelle doesn't provide a meal for her kids that's something that demands evidence.
    Are you saying she does? Seems like that would be advertised by her quite heavily if she did.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Well it's taking the haters some real creativity to conjour up the contradictory complaints they've thrown out.

    Too many calories, not enough calories, food is getting thrown away, food is too plain.
    I've been consistent that over controlling a diet with too little options is taking away fundamental freedoms. Not the gov'ts job.

    Ironic that liberals, who once were the stalwart defenders of freedom and peoples choices, are now all for gov't control if it comes from the right party?
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Parents can send treats with children but schools are now ruled under the new program.

    "The Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010, which went into effect July 1, aims to tighten nutritional standards of food and snacks served in K-12 schools.

    In doing so, it gave the U.S. agriculture secretary new jurisdiction over an entire school’s campus in addition to the cafeteria, thus bringing regulations to all parts of the building during the school day — from the lunch line and hallway vending machines to the bookstore.

    The law spells out a special provision for the allowance of “infrequent” school-based food fundraisers in which special items can be sold. It requires states to set the standard, or else the default would be none at all.

    Any food fundraiser in schools, no matter the size or scale, will count for one of the 30 days permitted by the new policy, which school principals are expected to enforce. The State Board of Education voted unanimously to pick that number".
    School bake sales limited by new federal health rules

    The school lunch program as we know it, covers much more than lunch.
    First of all, parents can offer treats for their children to bring and that isn't a "fundraiser". Second, teachers can set up parent donation party days to give kids extra treats, especially for special days (I provided a good amount of snacks for my son's class last year, including cookies, cupcakes, juice, candy, and other things). And, at least in high school, students in many schools are allowed to leave campus for lunch. That is a policy decided by the school.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Yes it is indoctrination.
    Proper? Even your choice of wording shows it is indoctrination.


    It is indoctrination to educate kids on what is healthy to eat and to serve healthy food? Are you seriously suggesting that? To quote another poster oh no telling kids 2 + 2=4 that must mean its indoctrination.

    Secondly, the topic is about "like", not being taught simple about what is believed to be better.
    That is indoctrination.

    You as well as others seem not to understand that what is being spoken about is "like".
    That is indoctrination.

    And another one who wants to confuse what is being spoken about.
    Their "like" is what we are speaking about. It is indoctrination.
    You saying it isn't indoctrination when it is is what is truly absurd.

    And yet another one who doesn't realize what is being spoken about.
    Or do you really not understand the word "like".
    "Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches"
    Which has nothing to do with whether or not the lunches are actually healthier.
    You are the one claiming the kids have somehow been indoctrinated by the gobberment into liking the healthier lunches


    indoctrinate
    in·doc·tri·nate
    [in-dok-truh-neyt]
    verb (used with object), in·doc·tri·nat·ed, in·doc·tri·nat·ing.

    1. to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc., especially to imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view.
    2. to teach or inculcate.
    3. to imbue with learning
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    Indoctrinate | Define Indoctrinate at Dictionary.com


    No matter how you want to view this, it is indoctrination.

    And so is teaching kids 2+2=4 using that definition.



    Wow. While what you say can be true, you trying to suggest such with out evidence is ridiculous.



    The claim flies in the face of what is already known. The food is ending up in the trash because it isn't being eaten, which of course has nothing to do with taking it.
    Again alleged photos don't mean dick.Find a school menu from those alleged kids school district if you want to show actual proof.Most major school districts post school menus

    You fail out the gate with your emotive babble.
    So says the guy claiming the gobberment is indoctrinating kids into liking healthier food.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First of all, parents can offer treats for their children to bring and that isn't a "fundraiser".
    Exactly, that is what I said "Parents can send treats with children"

    Second, teachers can set up parent donation party days to give kids extra treats, especially for special days (I provided a good amount of snacks for my son's class last year, including cookies, cupcakes, juice, candy, and other things).
    This happen July 1. Remember there are other elements of the program that are slowing being tightened ie: lowering the sodium count.

    And, at least in high school, students in many schools are allowed to leave campus for lunch. That is a policy decided by the school.
    I don't believe the lunch program speaks to leaving the campus.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Are you saying she does? Seems like that would be advertised by her quite heavily if she did.
    Or it could be something not mentioned at all because it can't possibly matter. Just like Obama's birth certificate btw.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I've been consistent that over controlling a diet with too little options is taking away fundamental freedoms. Not the gov'ts job.

    Ironic that liberals, who once were the stalwart defenders of freedom and peoples choices, are now all for gov't control if it comes from the right party?
    Govt control? Nobody is forcing anyone to take a school lunch. Except for the rare instance where it's forbidden by the school district and I stand against such policies. But that's not what this thread is about by a longshot.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Exactly, that is what I said "Parents can send treats with children"

    This happen July 1. Remember there are other elements of the program that are slowing being tightened ie: lowering the sodium count.

    I don't believe the lunch program speaks to leaving the campus.
    They don't speak to things that are done by parents, that is the point. These are things that parents can do.

    Pretty sure nothing mentions parents sending treats to their kid's class at all, not voluntarily.

    And that is the point, parents still have the options they had before, as do some older children.

    It is the schools that are being limited, and if they choose to accept the additional money only. If they don't want the extra money, they can turn it down and not abide by the rules.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Govt control? Nobody is forcing anyone to take a school lunch. Except for the rare instance where it's forbidden by the school district and I stand against such policies. But that's not what this thread is about by a longshot.
    That's right the thread is about how 70% elementary kids like the new lunches, which feature more whole grains, vegetables and fruits, and lower fat levels. The problem was never bad school lunches, it's parents that let their kids eat too much junk and stay in the house all day.

    What's to stop parents from brown bagging a lunch full of carbs, fats and sweets for their kid?
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