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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you can continue to say debunked but it isn't. so continue with this false way of thinking.

    there are reason that people on diets or trying to lose weight eat more fruits vegtables and protiens. it is because you body consumes large amounts of calories just trying to process it.
    Gawd.

    This kind of thinking is one of the reasons people are so fat.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Try actually reading for comprehension. The issue with the so-called negative calorie foods is that they are used for dieting FOR A REASON.



    You were saying there were plenty of calories on that plate?



    Then you've lost your ability to read. And put the semantic BS away. Milk and nut allergies are much more prevalent today. Both links point that out.
    From your link (first paragraph, no less):

    there is no scientific evidence supporting the idea that any food is a negative-calorie food.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    95 apple
    4 celery
    4 carrot
    103 milk
    21 almond
    92 bread
    70 peanut butter
    50 jelly
    ___________

    439 calories
    For that one meal. The average 4-8 year old (this was a meal for a 2nd grader, according to his mother) needs only about 1600 calories (total) for a day. What did they have for breakfast? Should have been 300-400 calories. Most schools have snack time before lunch for elementary school. Another 100 or so calories. Then they will almost certainly have an after school snack (many schools offer these for those that have after school programs that care for kids for longer than an hour or so after school). This would be about another 150-250 calories (assuming that it is provided by the school). So they need another 600 calories for dinner. 2 slices of pizza from pizza hut (12", regular crust, pepperoni pizza = 520 calories) would put them at just around 1600 calories. Any desserts or junk food after school til they go to bed and they've gone well over that 1600 for the day.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Gawd.

    This kind of thinking is one of the reasons people are so fat.
    this is what we call not reading the links posted.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    We are free. Free to choose between Coke and Pepsi.
    Spoken like another loyal and mindless customer.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you can continue to say debunked but it isn't. so continue with this false way of thinking.

    there are reason that people on diets or trying to lose weight eat more fruits vegtables and protiens. it is because you body consumes large amounts of calories just trying to process it.
    It is not bad for children to eat fruits and vegetables and lots of them. They provide lots of nutrients that children need, even if very few calories (they are still not "negative calories"). The point of eating them while dieting is that they fill you up with very few calories and provide nutrition to the dieting person. They still have calories, that are the same calories as any other food you would eat. That has been proven. No matter if you eat a piece of meat with 100 calories or 6 carrots that are only around 24 calories total, your body is still only going to burn the same amount of those calories doing an activity such as walking for a few minutes. So that 450 calories the child is putting into their body from fruits or veggies is still going to the total of calories they are taking in.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There are 86 calories in skim milk. There are 103 in 1% milk.

    The rest has been debunked. It is miniscule amounts burned digesting it.

    But the food is still available.
    No, it hasn't. The foods may not be negative calories, but the resulting calorie yield is so low they are considered "negative calorie" foods. They are just eating it for extremely little gain. That's not what we want for growing children.

    As to the milk, there is no indication it's 1% or skim. In fact, to be so it must say that on the carton. The pictured carton is whole milk. But you've done nothing to address the fact that more and more kids are reacting badly to milk.

    Look the idea of lunch (formally known in school planning documents as "lunch recess" btw) is to fortify the growing kids for the rest of the school day. This doesn't cut it.

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Apples & Negative Calorie Foods | LIVESTRONG.COM
    How Many Calories Does Digestion Use Up? | LIVESTRONG.COM

    according to the second link if you eat fiberous foods you burn about 20% of the calories in digestion. this is why people on diets eat a lot of fruits and vegatables and protean, because just eating and digesting the 2 of them is about 50% burn off of the calories consumed.

    that doesn't include exercise.
    Those links are for adults burning calories. In fact, from that link, it even says that the more muscle mass a person has, the more calories they burn during digestion. A child does not have a lot of muscle mass. Children's bodies do not work the same way as grownup bodies do.
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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Which would you rather your children ate for lunch?
    Before:

    Bean and cheese burrito (5.3 oz) with mozzarella cheese (1 oz)
    Applesauce (1/4 cup)
    Orange juice (4 oz)
    2 percent milk (8 oz)

    After:

    Turkey (1 oz) and low-fat cheese (0.5 oz) sandwich on whole wheat bread
    Refried beans (1/2 cup)
    Jicama (1/4 cup)
    Green pepper strips (1/4 cup)
    Cantaloupe wedges (1/2 cup)
    Skim milk (8 oz)
    Mustard (9 grams)
    Reduced fat mayonnaise (1 oz)
    Low-fat ranch drip (1 oz)
    MMmmm........

    Jicama, every person must have this item on their grocery list


    "It's likely that you're not particularly familiar with jicama -- this crunchy, white vegetable isn't exactly the most common ingredient in the U.S."
    How To Make Jicama Taste Its Most Delicious (PHOTOS)

    Not sure where you found these menus, but neither would be my choice

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    Re: Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    For that one meal. The average 4-8 year old (this was a meal for a 2nd grader, according to his mother) needs only about 1600 calories (total) for a day. What did they have for breakfast? Should have been 300-400 calories. Most schools have snack time before lunch for elementary school. Another 100 or so calories. Then they will almost certainly have an after school snack (many schools offer these for those that have after school programs that care for kids for longer than an hour or so after school). This would be about another 150-250 calories (assuming that it is provided by the school). So they need another 600 calories for dinner. 2 slices of pizza from pizza hut (12", regular crust, pepperoni pizza = 520 calories) would put them at just around 1600 calories. Any desserts or junk food after school til they go to bed and they've gone well over that 1600 for the day.
    That's fine if you're raising sedentary girls on the baseline.

    Because 4- to 8-year-old boys are often bigger than girls within the same age range, they generally require more calories as well. Active 4- to 8-year-old children need more calories than their inactive counterparts. For example, girls ages 4 to 8 often need 1,200 calories daily if they are sedentary, 1,400 to 1,600 calories if they are moderately active and 1,400 to 1,800 calories a day if they are regularly active. Also, 4- to 8-year-old boys generally need 1,400 calories when they’re sedentary, 1,400 to 1,600 calories if they are moderately active and 1,600 to 2,000 calories daily when they are active, notes the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute.
    How Many Calories Should a Child Be Eating? | LIVESTRONG.COM

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