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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, thanks to us.
    Boy did that fly over your head!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Boy did that fly over your head!
    If you say so....
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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Different scenario here. 10 years of war versus a split second shooting of aircraft. I trust the technology US possesses to detect missile launches.
    No doubt about that, but you fail to mention that the US leaders are a pack of well known liars.

    Technology is there and it is good, but it is in the hands of pathological liars, and that requires at least a teaspoon of salt.

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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    No doubt about that, but you fail to mention that the US leaders are a pack of well known liars.

    Technology is there and it is good, but it is in the hands of pathological liars, and that requires at least a teaspoon of salt.
    American citizens don't even trust the US government so I could only imagine what the rest of the world thinks about them.

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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A NATO official in an email to Situation Report this morning on tracking the missile: "Two NATO AWACS surveillance planes were on patrol over Poland and Romania at the time of the incident. Their flight records are being reviewed. However, given the great distance of the AWACS patrol routes from the area where the Malaysian airlines flight went down, we do not expect that our aircraft recorded the incident."

    FP's Situation Report: Still no hard evidence to pin downing of jet on separatists; Three-star: military force and passion don't mix; Israel targets Hamas tunnels, ops; Dunford on ambiguity on drawdown plans; and a bit more.
    It is easily possible that two AWACS did not see what happened. There would, however, be no excuse. They were not really very far away for the equipment on board and they had been stationed to watch that airspace meaning that the deployment would have taken the range into account. From earlier encounters I remember that the range for directing air combat is much larger. Romania and Poland are each only one small country removed. If they did not track what happened then we have a real security problem.

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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Naptyme View Post
    American citizens don't even trust the US government so I could only imagine what the rest of the world thinks about them.
    You don't even have to imagine, just look past US propaganda from MSM, for real news.
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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It is easily possible that two AWACS did not see what happened. There would, however, be no excuse. They were not really very far away for the equipment on board and they had been stationed to watch that airspace meaning that the deployment would have taken the range into account. From earlier encounters I remember that the range for directing air combat is much larger. Romania and Poland are each only one small country removed. If they did not track what happened then we have a real security problem.
    In sooooo many ways, security problems have been pointed out. One, the excuse that it was only believed that the separatists had shoulder fired rockets/missiles was gone when a week earlier a plane had been dropped from 22K. But there could be little better for Kiev, then the separatists shooting down a civilian airliner!! Who needs security.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    ....But there could be little better for Kiev, then the separatists shooting down a civilian airliner!! .....
    So you think cui bono?

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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    So you think cui bono?
    I don't know. It's as possible as any other theory being offered.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US working on case against Russia on downed plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Naptyme View Post
    My personal view is that the blame should primarily fall to the airline in this case.

    Totally agree.

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