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    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    So what's your plan NP? Stop negotiations then what?
    Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!
    I'm still working my way through this thread and I've yet to find anyone of these hardliner hawks in here to put forth ANY plan whatsoever of what we should be doing. I'm forced to be left thinking they have no plan other than wait for Obama's and take the opposite.

    I'm all eyes and ears right-wingers. Tell us all what the U.S. should be doing with Iran right now and from there forward.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Of course I would have let them stay to finish their job. When complete, their report would have mooted the need for war with Iraq, 4,500 US service personel would still be with us, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens that have died in the course of a decade or better, wouldn't have, we'd have an extra trillion or so dollars in our wallet as well as far more global credibility. It's amazing you guys still defend Iraq. Only the cost prohibits me from laughing.

    BERKELEY – Speaking on the anniversary of the United States' invasion of Iraq, originally declared as a pre-emptive strike against a madman ready to deploy weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), the man first charged with finding those weapons said that the U.S. government has "the same mind frame as the witch hunters of the past" — looking for evidence to support a foregone conclusion.
    I would not go with you there. The inspectors had been trying to inspect for a long time. The SC had issued the resolution that was being blatantly rejected. The ultimatum had been made and the dictator relied on the backing of principally three countries to protect him. The invasion was fully justified and made sense at the time.

    Whether it would have been smarter for Bush to resist getting played into the corner by Putin and Schröder is another matter.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

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    What the poster said was true.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!
    But the only President to have used nukes was a Democrat. Ergo, this dummy Obama needs to not talk to them or bomb them. Inaction, like Bush, is what they want


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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I would not go with you there. The inspectors had been trying to inspect for a long time. The SC had issued the resolution that was being blatantly rejected. The ultimatum had been made and the dictator relied on the backing of principally three countries to protect him. The invasion was fully justified and made sense at the time.

    Whether it would have been smarter for Bush to resist getting played into the corner by Putin and Schröder is another matter.
    Well of course you won't. You're going down with the ship on it. Nevertheless, Hans Blix was the boots on the ground, not George Bush, and he testified that he had the access this time that he was denied in 1991. There was no WMD, he knew it, and he left a pissed off badger and wrote a scathing report highly critical of Bush and his insistence on attacking Iraq, absent the threat used to justify the invasion. Many ardent Bush supporters at the time have acknowledge the folly and repented of their position, many of them are participants of this board. But there remain the stubborn, perhaps incapable or just too embarrassed so they press on belligerently defending the indefensible.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well of course you won't. You're going down with the ship on it. Nevertheless, Hans Blix was the boots on the ground, not George Bush, and he testified that he had the access this time that he was denied in 1991. There was no WMD, he knew it, and he left a pissed off badger and wrote a scathing report highly critical of Bush and his insistence on attacking Iraq, absent the threat used to justify the invasion. Many ardent Bush supporters at the time have acknowledge the folly and repented of their position, many of them are participants of this board. But there remain the stubborn, perhaps incapable or just too embarrassed so they press on belligerently defending the indefensible.
    Ahh, Blix. He also told Blair at that time he could not guarantee that there where no wmd in the country. But it was that guarantee that was his job to give, if Saddam was to be believed and the resolution considered filled. What he knew is of no consequence, though, if he knew and withheld the guarantee, he would have deliberately caused the invasion. Is that what you are implying?

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Don't disturb our fearless leader as he has decided to go on vacation during the collapse of world stability and terror.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I would not go with you there. The inspectors had been trying to inspect for a long time. The SC had issued the resolution that was being blatantly rejected. The ultimatum had been made and the dictator relied on the backing of principally three countries to protect him. The invasion was fully justified and made sense at the time.

    Whether it would have been smarter for Bush to resist getting played into the corner by Putin and Schröder is another matter.
    In the context of international law the US had no legal justification for the invasion, and in fact violated the UN Charter in doing so given that the UNSC never authorized an invasion. The invasion was illegal.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Always read the reports. But they aren't enough as far as I am informed. You would want free roaming inspectors on the ground continuously and permanently. Anything less is too little. It might be understandable, if Iran had technology that could be stolen like in the Cold War, that they should refuse. As it is though, the only unemotional explanation for the secrecy is that they have something to hide.
    lol I can't tell if you're trolling or not. Every country has something to hide. Every country has national secrets. There is nothing abnormal about that.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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