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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, you can compare Iran with a belligerent teenager, but that description fit the Bush administration far better.
    Quick question: Who's the one that has free elections? Or maybe just talk about the country that shoots it's protesters when they call an election rigged? Sounds like a bully to me.

    I am curious though, are you okay with Iran having a nuke?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hi Beau. I have to take issue with the notion that Iran would ever use a nuke in their own region or abroad. That would not perpetuate themselves or advance their goals whatsoever. This is similar to the fevered pitch in 2003 when Americans were frightened with the notion that if we didn't act NOW, we would see mushroom clouds over a US city. So far the world has only seen that twice.
    Nothing to stop them from giving one to Hamas or Hezbollah though...
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, when that four months pases we'll give them four more months, then four more months, then four more months, then four more and so on. It's not hard to do the math.
    Get ya a GOPer in the WH and with a pre-emptive strike, nuke em on the first day on the job. Settled.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Talking is always better than fighting. Talking with an honest broker is preferable. Talking for the sake of talking, while the other side continues to advance their programs and the potential threat continues to grow, however, is not preferable.

    At this point, it's difficult to understand why they would need more time, or why we would give it to them. Either they plan on complying with the will of the word's nations, or they do not. If not, then giving them more time is as exercise in futility and at the very least, crippling international sanctions should be reinstated. If, however, they have given us proof that they are dismantling and/or reducing their enrichment program to the level needed only for medical use and their long range missile program has been halted, then an extension of time may be acceptable if it is to allow them to get their own hardliners on board.

    I've seen no evidence that they have reduced their enrichment program, or halted their long range missile program. I may be wrong, but I haven't seen it.
    Read the most recent AIEA report.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I don't know that they would have to become suicidal. They have more than enough followers that would do that for them, and Iran's Ayatollah would deny complicity. That's what they've done with Hamas and multiple other terrorist groups - supply them with the weapons and cash, while they fight the war for the Iranians. Not all that different from what we do, except we don't usually support terrorists, at least lately (Syria not included).
    Sounds like you describe US FP in the ME.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Always read the reports. But they aren't enough as far as I am informed. You would want free roaming inspectors on the ground continuously and permanently. Anything less is too little. It might be understandable, if Iran had technology that could be stolen like in the Cold War, that they should refuse. As it is though, the only unemotional explanation for the secrecy is that they have something to hide.
    Well, if you don't trust the IAEA, you're consistent. Their word wasn't trusted back in early 03 when they told us that unlike 91' they were getting unfettered access, even to Saddam's presidential palace. But in his belligerence, the day before we launched the attack, Bush told the State Department to tell Hans Blix to get out. The die was cast, the intelligence was fixed around the policy of war with Saddam, that Blix's team couldn't find WMD, was irrelevant.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Get ya a GOPer in the WH and with a pre-emptive strike, nuke em on the first day on the job. Settled.
    I thought the only preseident who ever nuked anybody was a Democrat. No?

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I thought the only preseident who ever nuked anybody was a Democrat. No?
    Oh boy. Stupid thread just jumped the shark.


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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Get ya a GOPer in the WH and with a pre-emptive strike, nuke em on the first day on the job. Settled.
    Like Bush did! Oh wait....

    We all know that the best solution to Iran is to shake our finger at them and call them naughty.


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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Quick question: Who's the one that has free elections? Or maybe just talk about the country that shoots it's protesters when they call an election rigged? Sounds like a bully to me.

    I am curious though, are you okay with Iran having a nuke?



    Nothing to stop them from giving one to Hamas or Hezbollah though...
    Its insane to suggest that Iran would give Hamas or Hezbollah nukes. Note the superior weaponry that Hamas is working with right now. Iran has far better weaponry that they could provide, and don't. For decades the US has supported militant Islamic groups (terrorist organisations) but we never have or would supply them with weaponry that they might defeat us with. Nor would Iran do such a thing.

    As to the other question. I would prefer that NOBODY has nukes, but that if anybody has them, then it makes complete sense that everybody else has them. They factually are a deterrent, and so far, with the exception of the US, every country that possesses them have used them for nothing more.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I thought the only preseident who ever nuked anybody was a Democrat. No?
    Indubitably. In more recent decades the GOPers have taken up the hawkish mantle.
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