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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    When did anything in any of my posts inform you of such. Cato's paper that you're fearful to read addresses the fact that US interference in the ME is fuelling extremists, and breeding terrorism. It's almost embarrassing to have to point out the obvious.
    I doubt that that even if we were to withdraw completely from the ME, our problems with radical Islam would go away.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    But it all stems from the same issue, perceived US entanglement in the ME. And while it is true there are numerous causes for the scourge of radical Islam, we're not really talking about why those countries are affected.
    How can any country deal with 'perceptions'? The fact is that the Middle East is not the most sophisticated area of the world and their 'perceptions' are not about to be changed by anything the west can say or do. These countries don't often agree with each other and feuds have been going on for centuries. There is no way to satisfy all of them.



    There's a difference between rhetoric though and the capacity to do so. IF ISIS were to survive, then it is true they would be a threat to the US. However, I don't think they'll survive the conflict they find themselves in.
    Or they may be doing the dirty work for Iran. They appear to be growing in strength.
    I guess that depends on how you define "worried". No one is going to outright attack American interest, because they know they would get hit back decisively. However, as long as they don't directly involve us, then it is true that their not worried about us getting involved.
    I doubt they are fearful of the US, given the defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan. They know about Obama and the American people wanting to withdraw from world affairs. This is the perfect time for others to exploit weaknesses wherever they find them in order to further their own ends. We'll be watching huge power shifts going on.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

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    Or they may be doing the dirty work for Iran. They appear to be growing in strength.
    By attacking Iraq, which is an ally of Iran? I'm not sure you're up to date on the politics of the region...

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    I doubt they are fearful of the US, given the defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan. They know about Obama and the American people wanting to withdraw from world affairs. This is the perfect time for others to exploit weaknesses wherever they find them in order to further their own ends. We'll be watching huge power shifts going on.
    Many never thought we'd get ourselves involved in WW2... until someone had the balls to attack us.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

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    I doubt that that even if we were to withdraw completely from the ME, our problems with radical Islam would go away.
    Well no **** Sherlock. With decades of support it will take quite a lot to get a lid on this. At any rate, that comment didn't address what you quoted. CATO produced a very good paper documenting decades of US policy that is BREEDING terrorism. Continue to deny that until these people suffocate you!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well no **** Sherlock. With decades of support it will take quite a lot to get a lid on this. At any rate, that comment didn't address what you quoted. CATO produced a very good paper documenting decades of US policy that is BREEDING terrorism. Continue to deny that until these people suffocate you!
    The thing is, before the first gulf war, the terrorism issue was largely relegated to the Middle East. Iran had an uprising, but they've never attacked us. I don't recall Lebanon ever launching attacks on US interest outside of the Middle East. It wasn't until Bin Laden that terrorism was an international threat.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    By attacking Iraq, which is an ally of Iran? I'm not sure you're up to date on the politics of the region...
    I'm not convinced Iran is an ally of Iraq. Apart from the earlier war they had with Iraq, they would dearly love the oil Iraq produces. Just because the Coalition has left doesn't mean it's still not 'All About Oil'.
    Many never thought we'd get ourselves involved in WW2... until someone had the balls to attack us.
    It was a different generation with different values. I doubt the military has much confidence in this president either.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The thing is, before the first gulf war, the terrorism issue was largely relegated to the Middle East. Iran had an uprising, but they've never attacked us. I don't recall Lebanon ever launching attacks on US interest outside of the Middle East. It wasn't until Bin Laden that terrorism was an international threat.
    Oh yeah, that old CIA asset.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

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    I'm not convinced Iran is an ally of Iraq. Apart from the earlier war they had with Iraq, they would dearly love the oil Iraq produces. Just because the Coalition has left doesn't mean it's still not 'All About Oil'.
    It was a different generation with different values. I doubt the military has much confidence in this president either.
    You know where Maliki hid for all those years? Iran. Trust me, their allies.

    And it doesn't matter what generation you're in; if we are attacked, you better believe there will be a response.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh yeah, that old CIA asset.
    Your point?

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    I don't think we Americans are going to like the blow back we're going to see from our decades of supporting extremist, militant Islamists. Many analysts predict 9/11, was small by comparison. Forbes has a paper on this as well. Hopefully, we get the morons out of our foreign policy, and some sound minded individuals in.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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