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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Ahh, Blix. He also told Blair at that time he could not guarantee that there where no wmd in the country. But it was that guarantee that was his job to give, if Saddam was to be believed and the resolution considered filled. What he knew is of no consequence, though, if he knew and withheld the guarantee, he would have deliberately caused the invasion. Is that what you are implying?
    No it wasn't and Blix with great frustration pointed out, you can not prove a negative, as I can't prove to you that there is no tennis ball in this room. Failed critical thinking is what Blix accused both Bush and Blair of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    In the context of international law the US had no legal justification for the invasion, and in fact violated the UN Charter in doing so given that the UNSC never authorized an invasion. The invasion was illegal.
    The apologists will never EVER admit to this truth.
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    In the context of international law the US had no legal justification for the invasion, and in fact violated the UN Charter in doing so given that the UNSC never authorized an invasion. The invasion was illegal.
    The resolution read differently. There was a discussion about whether or not "serious consequences" could mean invasion with France taking an other view. But the speech Bush had held a few days before the resolution was passed had made absolutely clear, how the US and most other leaders would interpret it. I for my part did not believe at the time that a further resolution was required. Maybe you want to argue that 1441 was insufficient legitimization for the invasion? I do not think that you can, though, you might say to believe otherwise.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    To secure Syria's vote in favor of Council Resolution 1441, Secretary of State Powell reportedly advised Syrian officials that "there is nothing in the resolution to allow it to be used as a pretext to launch a war on Iraq."[3


    Legality of the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    lol I can't tell if you're trolling or not. Every country has something to hide. Every country has national secrets. There is nothing abnormal about that.
    No, there is nothing abnormal about countries having secrets.
    The problem here is that a large number of countries voted to make sure Iran was not building an atomic weapon and the inspectors have found a number of indications of a weapons program. A number of the findings seem impossible to explain, if the Iranians are not conducting such a program and their government has not been able or willing to explain.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    No, there is nothing abnormal about countries having secrets.
    The problem here is that a large number of countries voted to make sure Iran was not building an atomic weapon and the inspectors have found a number of indications of a weapons program. A number of the findings seem impossible to explain, if the Iranians are not conducting such a program and their government has not been able or willing to explain.
    You guys never believe the IAEA, though they were right in Iraq and you were WRONG!!!

    IAEA says Iran eliminates enriched uranium
    The UN's nuclear agency said Iran had met the requirements of an interim deal on its nuclear program. A report released on Sunday showed that the oil-rich country had eliminated its stockpile of enriched uranium.

    http://www.dw.de/iaea-says-iran-elim...ium/a-17797288

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0FP0LW20140720
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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Why is extending talks a bad thing?
    All they are doing is given more time to create a weapon. Duh.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No it wasn't and Blix with great frustration pointed out, you can not prove a negative, as I can't prove to you that there is no tennis ball in this room. Failed critical thinking is what Blix accused both Bush and Blair of.
    The pity is that that was what the UN demanded. And, when you think about it, the demand was not as absurd as you would like it to seem. Had the inspectors been able to roam free instead of being block over and over again, the statistical proof would have sufficed. With inspectors roaming the country Bush would never have been able to invade. Not a chance and you know that.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    In the context of international law the US had no legal justification for the invasion, and in fact violated the UN Charter in doing so given that the UNSC never authorized an invasion. The invasion was illegal.
    Funny, I remember it being that the UN asked us to be the enforcer in Saddams multiple nose thumbing sessions at their resolutions.

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    Re: US, world powers agree to extend deadline for Iran to meet nuclear scale-back dea

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The pity is that that was what the UN demanded. And, when you think about it, the demand was not as absurd as you would like it to seem. Had the inspectors been able to roam free instead of being block over and over again, the statistical proof would have sufficed. With inspectors roaming the country Bush would never have been able to invade. Not a chance and you know that.
    Why are you being dishonest with this, in multiple public statements, policy papers, interviews and at least one book Hans Blix has said the opposite of you. Stop with the disinformation.
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