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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That is one thing I haven't seen any conservative consider here. What if those groups were targeted because they were attempting to circumvent American tax law?
    I've addressed it before

    Undoubtably some were. But I'm unable to believe that the disparity between liberal and conservative groups attempting to circumvent American tax law is anywhere on line with the disparity of additional scrutiny given to conservative groups compared to liberal ones.

    You know one thing I haven't seen many liberals consider here? Why is it okay to point out disproportionate action under the law when it comes to race, but somehow disproportionate action under the law as it relates to ideology is not a legitimate thing to point to in this case?

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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    She was instructed to 'admit' it. It was a 'staged' admission. It is also a fact that other groups, that were not conservative, but were progressive were also targeted.

    That makes ZERO sense.

    Who " instructed " her admit to illegally targeting American Citizens based on their Political views and why ?

    And we've already been over the "other groups " false narrative.

    I'm beginning to wonder if you're having reading comprehension issues.

    One more time, the tax exempt status for 7 Progressive groups were held back for additional questioning.

    After 1 or two extra questions each they were given their tax exempt status.

    The tax exempt status for Conservative groups were held back for YEARS plus additional Federal agencies were instructed to harrass these people.

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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

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    Tea party groups' suit against IRS moves forward

    " CINCINNATI (AP) -- A federal judge has allowed a lawsuit by 10 tea party groups to move forward against the Internal Revenue Service, rejecting a request by the federal government to dismiss all the allegations that the agency subjected conservative groups to additional, often burdensome scrutiny "

    Good for them....
    Good. Bring on the trial and lets see if any these tea party groups really are "social charites" that qualify for 501c status.


    If those groups don't like the "burdensome scrutiny" of the IRS then wait until they see the "burdensome scrutiny" of the justice system. lol
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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Good. Bring on the trial and lets see if any these tea party groups really are "social charity" that qualify for 501c status.


    If those groups don't like the "burdensome scrutiny" of the IRS then wait until they see the "burdensome scrutiny" of the justice system. lol
    So much for due process, eh? To hell with equal protection under the law?

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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    They'll lose. The IRS seems to have targeted groups that were set up in recent months, whose main purpose was to not pay taxes, and which were formed as tax-exempt organizations. So, duh. We would expect the IRS to target such groups. If those groups were conservative, so be it. But that's not why those were targeted. If those groups were liberal, then so be it. But that's not why those groups were targeted.

    BTW, the IRS targeted other groups, in addition to those.
    See guys? Nothing to see here. The IRS simply targeted guilty groups to investigate if they were guilty.
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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What was the IRS's probable cause?
    Apparently JumpinJack thinks "Tea Party" is probable cause.
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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I've addressed it before

    Undoubtably some were. But I'm unable to believe that the disparity between liberal and conservative groups attempting to circumvent American tax law is anywhere on line with the disparity of additional scrutiny given to conservative groups compared to liberal ones.

    You know one thing I haven't seen many liberals consider here? Why is it okay to point out disproportionate action under the law when it comes to race, but somehow disproportionate action under the law as it relates to ideology is not a legitimate thing to point to in this case?
    Because the anti-racism rhetoric coming from the Libbos is just for show.
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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    You can complain all you want. What you don't have is evidence.
    Of course there is evidence! Lois Lerner admitted guilt that the beginning of this, but tried to pawn it off on "rogue agents" in Cincinnati. So she admitted guilt on behalf of the IRS and then lied about its origins.

    That was on the FIRST DAY of this scandal. The year since then has been obstruction, pleasing the fifth and "lost" emails.
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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I've addressed it before

    Undoubtably some were. But I'm unable to believe that the disparity between liberal and conservative groups attempting to circumvent American tax law is anywhere on line with the disparity of additional scrutiny given to conservative groups compared to liberal ones.

    You know one thing I haven't seen many liberals consider here? Why is it okay to point out disproportionate action under the law when it comes to race, but somehow disproportionate action under the law as it relates to ideology is not a legitimate thing to point to in this case?

    The IRS only became aware of the tea party in 2010 because they were constantly in the news spewing anti-government and anti-tax rhetoric. Someone who openly says they're going to defy the IRS in the media is essentially begging for more scrutiny from the IRS. Doh.

    The only new Liberal groups that I recall in the news back in 2010 was OWS but I don't think they applied for special tax status...at least I didn't hear of any that did.

    So if it's disproportionate perhaps it's because the anti-tax tea party came onto the scene like a wild fire and all the little local political groups started to disproportionately apply to the IRS for 501c status as "charities".

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    Re: Tea Party Groups' Suit Against IRS Moves Forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Good. Bring on the trial and lets see if any these tea party groups really are "social charites" that qualify for 501c status.


    If those groups don't like the "burdensome scrutiny" of the IRS then wait until they see the "burdensome scrutiny" of the justice system. lol
    I really think the desire for a scandal is going to backfire.

    Once it becomes clear that some of these groups are abusing their status the party will end.

    And apparently many of them were formed are conduits to avoid the not primarily political limitation. Spend 49% on political activity. Donate the other 51% to another 501(c)(4) who spends 49% of THAT on political activity, then donates 51% to another (or the original). Rinse and repeat until virtually all the money goes to political activity. All anonymous, of course.
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