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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Truth is we don't KNOW whether it's a missile or a bomb like Pan Am 103. STill too soon to know.
    It was a missile, fired by the rebels, or the Russians.

    Cover-up: Ukraine rebels destroying all links to MH17 air atrocity | World news | The Guardian
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    From your link.

    Bob Latiff, a former US weapons developer for the air force and the CIA and now a professor at Notre Dame University, said he leaned towards a belief that it was a case of mistaken identity on the part of those who pressed the button. Such things including friendly fire happen in combat zones.

    It's an unfortunate tragedy. Hopefully lessons are learned and commercial planes avoid the area going forward.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    From your link.

    Bob Latiff, a former US weapons developer for the air force and the CIA and now a professor at Notre Dame University, said he leaned towards a belief that it was a case of mistaken identity on the part of those who pressed the button. Such things including friendly fire happen in combat zones.

    It's an unfortunate tragedy. Hopefully lessons are learned and commercial planes avoid the area going forward.
    The SA-11 has a built in redundancy that prevents the system from firing on civilian aircraft.

    Also, when the aircraft is painted by the fire control system, the profile of the aircraft can be used to identify the type of aircraft it is.

    The rebs/Russians not only shot splashed this aircraft, but they knew damn well they were shooting at a civilian aircraft.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The SA-11 has a built in redundancy that prevents the system from firing on civilian aircraft.

    Also, when the aircraft is painted by the fire control system, the profile of the aircraft can be used to identify the type of aircraft it is.

    The rebs/Russians not only shot splashed this aircraft, but they knew damn well they were shooting at a civilian aircraft.
    Serious allegations without a shred of EVIDENCE in anyone's hands to support it. You sound like your girl at the UN.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yessir, that is the official story since the get go. Copy that.

    But that doesn't make it the truth.

    Pan Am 103 used a bomb.

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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Yessir, that is the official story since the get go. Copy that.

    But that doesn't make it the truth.

    Pan Am 103 used a bomb.
    MH 17 didn't explode in the air.
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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    MH 17 didn't explode in the air.
    And how do you know that, 4 days after the event?

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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    MH 17 didn't explode in the air.
    Too bad you don't have time left to edit that one.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Did you read the link I posted in the thread Maggie started about this very incident? Not only did we apologize, but we paid millions of dollars to the families of the dead. I understand you weren't around when it happened, which is an even larger reason to read about the facts and not make unfounded statements.
    We've never admitted culpability for the incident. We've "expressed deep regret over the loss of lives" and that's a cop-out. Second we paid $62 million in restitution because Iran sued us in the International Court of Justice, not because we offered it willingly.

    SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ON
    THE CASE CONCERNING THE AERIAL INCIDENT OF
    3 JULY 1988 BEFORE THE INTERNATIONAL
    COURT OF JUSTICE

    http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/79/11131.pdf

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    Re: Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    We've never admitted culpability for the incident. We've "expressed deep regret over the loss of lives" and that's a cop-out. Second we paid $62 million in restitution because Iran sued us in the International Court of Justice, not because we offered it willingly.

    SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ON
    THE CASE CONCERNING THE AERIAL INCIDENT OF
    3 JULY 1988 BEFORE THE INTERNATIONAL
    COURT OF JUSTICE

    http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/79/11131.pdf
    You do realize that we didn't have to agree to even allow them to act as an arbiter, since we don't recognize that court? And, an apology doesn't have to have the words "sorry" or "apology" for it to be an apology. Expressing regret is the same as saying sorry or apologizing. We never denied culpability, as Russia and the Eastern Ukraine Rebels are doing, and we also admitted culpability when we expressed regret and then paid the money.
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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