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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    he still hasn't acknowledged the fact that nothing is going down and everything is going up.
    anyone looking at the chart can see that costs continue to rise. while they might not rise as much they thought they are still rising.
    there is no down trend in that chart at all.
    Remember, in the liberal world when costs rise but not as much as in the past that is a cut. They use that logic with the budget. Spending more isn't a problem in the liberal world because percentage change is all that matters.

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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    CBO 2014 outlook is scored assuming a 24% reimbursement rate cut for Medicare, theoretical PAB cuts, and algorithmic post 2024 forecasts that assume nothing every changes, all the while they state that cost per capital will rise beyond the rate of inflation.

    And you wonder why its a different projection than 2009.

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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    CBO 2014 outlook is scored assuming a 24% reimbursement rate cut for Medicare, theoretical PAB cuts, and algorithmic post 2024 forecasts that assume nothing every changes, all the while they state that cost per capital will rise beyond the rate of inflation.

    And you wonder why its a different projection than 2009.
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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

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    Its in the CBO report.
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    Ask the CBO.

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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Goalposts moved.
    IE i dont' have an argument to actually combat what he said so i will make something up.

    No i didn't move the goal post.

    The fact is that the chart still see costs going up. They might not be going up as much as they thought but the fact is they are still going up.
    there is not a downturn in the the graph headed down.

    if there was a down turn in the graph then you would have been correct.

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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Remember, in the liberal world when costs rise but not as much as in the past that is a cut. They use that logic with the budget. Spending more isn't a problem in the liberal world because percentage change is all that matters.
    Well that isn't just liberals that is washington talk in general. IE

    we cut the education budget by 20b. this really means. the current budget is 40b we wanted 80b and we only got 60b so we cut education spending by 20b. if you want to get political about it then you go " they cut educational spending by 20 billion dollars".

    logically it is insane, but that is how it works.

    in the real world if you cut 20b from education then you go from 40b to 20b. in washington not getting the amount of money you want is a cut.

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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    CBO 2014 outlook is scored assuming a 24% reimbursement rate cut for Medicare, theoretical PAB cuts, and algorithmic post 2024 forecasts that assume nothing every changes, all the while they state that cost per capital will rise beyond the rate of inflation.

    And you wonder why its a different projection than 2009.
    I see nothing about a 24% cut to Medicare reimbursements or theoretical PAB cuts. What page are those on?

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...getOutlook.pdf
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I see nothing about a 24% cut to Medicare reimbursements or theoretical PAB cuts. What page are those on?

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...getOutlook.pdf
    page 29

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    Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    IE i dont' have an argument to actually combat what he said so i will make something up.

    No i didn't move the goal post.

    The fact is that the chart still see costs going up. They might not be going up as much as they thought but the fact is they are still going up.
    there is not a downturn in the the graph headed down.

    if there was a down turn in the graph then you would have been correct.
    IE i understand that the OP was about projections and said 'less' and 'lower' so i'll pretend im outraged by medicare costs not going down in the future.
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    Re: Budget Office Lowers Its Estimate on Federal Spending for Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    IE i understand that the OP was about projections and said 'less' and 'lower' so i'll pretend im outraged by medicare costs not going down in the future.
    If by "'less' and 'lower'" you mean .1% of GDP in 25 years, then you are correct.

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