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(CNN) -- A Malaysia Airlines flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has crashed in eastern Ukraine, Russian news agency Interfax reported Thursday.

From some of the airline geek places I go to:

Flight MH17
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Video (can't be 100% sure if legit)

 
Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

Three months ago conspiracy theories dominated the airwaves. This latest crash by Malaysia Airlines is sure to rejuvenate our imaginations. No word yet on the cause or casualties.

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Flight Tracker: Malaysia Airlines (MH) #17

Both Russia and Ukraine are both claiming it was shot down and both are blaming each other.
 
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Why would you fly over that area?
 
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Well several Ukrainian planes have been brought down this week by missiles fired near the Russian border so if we are going to point fingers I have an idea where we can start.
 
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Tons of flights from Europe to S. Asia fly over that area, Singapore, Vietnam, Malaysia, Eva, JAL, Lufthansa, Air France, etc.

But this plane was at 33,000 feet. Can't come down from a shoulder fired missile, too high.

Russia did shoot down a Ukranian plane a few days ago...
 
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Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet) when it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher. A similar launcher was seen by Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday
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Official: Malaysian plane shot down over Ukraine :: WRAL.com
 
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Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet) when it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher. A similar launcher was seen by Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday
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Official: Malaysian plane shot down over Ukraine :: WRAL.com

This could be huge especially if the people on board are Americans and Europeans...
 
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If this is indeed Ukrainian sepratists that shot this passenger plane down...The world are gonna call on putin to end this movement.
If Russia gave the UkS these heavy weapons...Putin is screwed.

Putin claimed that Obama's sanctions were not only hurting Russia but the US companies as well...meaning it is hurting Russia.
 
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BUK Air Defense Tank

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Russians....or Russians in non uniformed pro Russian "separatist" gear
 
Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

Three months ago conspiracy theories dominated the airwaves. This latest crash by Malaysia Airlines is sure to rejuvenate our imaginations. No word yet on the cause or casualties.

Link

You do know what "BREAKING NEWS" means?
 
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If this is indeed Ukrainian sepratists that shot this passenger plane down...The world are gonna call on putin to end this movement.
If Russia gave the UkS these heavy weapons...Putin is screwed.

Putin claimed that Obama's sanctions were not only hurting Russia but the US companies as well...meaning it is hurting Russia.

If it was Russian separatists then yes, there will be calls for Putin to do something. Of course he won't and a few days later the calls will die down and all this will be relegated to minor trivia.

The whole concept of accountability is totally 20th century....it's ancient history. This is the 21st century and accountability on both the personal and state level is done....internationally it's done.
 
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If this is indeed Ukrainian sepratists that shot this passenger plane down...The world are gonna call on putin to end this movement.
If Russia gave the UkS these heavy weapons...Putin is screwed.

Putin claimed that Obama's sanctions were not only hurting Russia but the US companies as well...meaning it is hurting Russia.

I doubt the separatists did this. What motive could they have? Even if they thought it was a Ukrainian military plane, why would they try and antagonize the Ukrainian army further? Plus, I doubt Putin would be willing to give them such high grade vehicles, especially anti-air.
 
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If you go on FlightRadar24, you will see that the entire eastern Ukraine is empty, flights re-routed. I'd post a pic, but it is on my Android (I have the paid version with all the airline logos and tracking stuff).

There are no American airliners around there, none of our airlines are usually on that route, the ultra long haul stuff goes due north, then down over Siberia etc.
 
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I doubt the separatists did this. What motive could they have? Even if they thought it was a Ukrainian military plane, why would they try and antagonize the Ukrainian army further? Plus, I doubt Putin would be willing to give them such high grade vehicles, especially anti-air.

Crappy communications, brought on by the whole phony separatists crap.
 
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I doubt the separatists did this. What motive could they have? Even if they thought it was a Ukrainian military plane, why would they try and antagonize the Ukrainian army further?

Trigger happy morons could be the answer. Considering that the separatists are fractured big time, then well.

Plus, I doubt Putin would be willing to give them such high grade vehicles, especially anti-air.

He does not have to provide them with weapons, since they looted tons of them from Ukrainian military, something that many dont understand. When the separatists started to rise in the East, the Ukrainian military and police were deserting left and right and the military bases and weapons holds were taken over by the separatists. They among other things control at least on AA battery, so it could very well be a Ukrainian missile used by the separatists.

That is why the Ukrainians are claiming it is the separatists and NOT the Russians.
 
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Has to be Bush's fault.
 
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I dont want to be in Ivans shoes right now.
 
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If it was Russian separatists then yes, there will be calls for Putin to do something. Of course he won't and a few days later the calls will die down and all this will be relegated to minor trivia.

The whole concept of accountability is totally 20th century....it's ancient history. This is the 21st century and accountability on both the personal and state level is done....internationally it's done.

No it isnt.

If the Russians shot that plane down there will certainly be consequences.
 
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I doubt the separatists did this. What motive could they have? Even if they thought it was a Ukrainian military plane, why would they try and antagonize the Ukrainian army further? Plus, I doubt Putin would be willing to give them such high grade vehicles, especially anti-air.

A mistake does not need a motive.

Soviet fighters shot down a US civilian flight to Japan by mistake during the 1980s.
 
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