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Demon of Light said:
Presumably the same people saying this are the ones insisting vociferously that weather was the problem in Q1, that Portugal is not facing serious contagion from Espirito Santo, and that China's economy will be just fine. Maybe they are saying this with a little support from the people who assured everyone that the red-bearded guy in "Georgia" is totally the same person as the black and gray-bearded guy in Slovyansk. They may even be the same ones who said the War in Iraq would be over in six months. Key thing to remember is that if something is important, most people are not going to be honest or objective about it. Those in the West who want Russia under boot will insist they have all the power and can sanction away. People who deviate from that line of defense will be attacked.
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Well, that's why I said "I thought this evaluation was a bit optimistic." The truth, however, most likely lies in the middle. Europe is probably not as impotent as people think (provided that they wanted to act) and Russia would suffer but is probably not as fragile as this evaluation thinks.
 
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Anthony60 said:
And his grades were... what? Please let us all in on the big secret, since you seem to know.

Oh, wait. Please don't tell me. You are just going to assume that the guy that keeps his grades guarded more fiercely than the gold at Fort Knox is so scholarly. Try and put 2 and 2 together, and if you get 4, you've figured out this guy is a big dummy. Most liberals get 2+2=5. That's how this incompetent got elected.
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Like the other poster said, you don't seem to understand college and law school. You insist that his grades must be bad... while he graduated Magna Cum Laude and made Law Review. Dear, get informed. Only people with the highest grades achieve these two honors. There is no such thing as a student with low grades graduating Magna Cum Laude, and in Law School there is no such thing as a student with low grades making Law Review. The reason the president hasn't released his transcript is because it's none of your business, and you guys only bitch about this because he is black and you keep yelling "affirmative action." Nobody would make of this an issue (at least nobody who knows what Magna Cum Laude and Law Review are) if the president were white.

By the way, I say this while agreeing that this president is not having a good administration, particularly in foreign policy. However, most certainly his shortcomings are not related to low grades in college and law school. Oh, by the way, he wasn't born in Kenya. Make that Hawaii.
 
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Montecresto said:
You really don't pay attention if you call me an Obama supporter.

Gitmo still open

Support of militant Islamic groups

Abuse of UN resolution in Libya

Drone program

Border policy

Gun running

Support for the Ukraine coup

PPACA

NSA spying

And that's just to name a few things that Obama hasn't my support in.
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Ok, so a disillusioned Obama supporter...Good...;) Nah, in all seriousness Monte, I think you are a smart guy. We disagree on a host of subjects, but overall I think that you try and make your arguments the best you can considering what you believe, and I respect that...Not everyone should agree on everything should they? That would be boring. :peace:
 
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j-mac said:
Ok, so a disillusioned Obama supporter...Good...;) Nah, in all seriousness Monte, I think you are a smart guy. We disagree on a host of subjects, but overall I think that you try and make your arguments the best you can considering what you believe, and I respect that...Not everyone should agree on everything should they? That would be boring. :peace:
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Well, I guess it's hard to know what the world would be like if we all did agree on everything. Perhaps a little bit of boring would be a respite from all the violence and suffering that comes with all the disagreement. I do tend to think that people have more in common then meets the eye and that there are those that benifit from the exploitation of the differences. Thanks for your comments, peace to you.
 
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GreatNews2night said:
Like the other poster said, you don't seem to understand college and law school. You insist that his grades must be bad... while he graduated Magna Cum Laude and made Law Review. Dear, get informed. Only people with the highest grades achieve these two honors. There is no such thing as a student with low grades graduating Magna Cum Laude, and in Law School there is no such thing as a student with low grades making Law Review. The reason the president hasn't released his transcript is because it's none of your business, and you guys only bitch about this because he is black and you keep yelling "affirmative action." Nobody would make of this an issue (at least nobody who knows what Magna Cum Laude and Law Review are) if the president were white.

By the way, I say this while agreeing that this president is not having a good administration, particularly in foreign policy. However, most certainly his shortcomings are not related to low grades in college and law school. Oh, by the way, he wasn't born in Kenya. Make that Hawaii.
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Well, don't speak as if it is a fact and you know what his grades were, because we don't. To be clear, I don't know what happened, but I certainly don't take his word for it. The guy admits to being on drugs in high school, and all of a sudden he is this great student at Harvard. Sorry, but there are a lot of blanks that need to be filled in there. This guy has been carried along all his life, so I wouldn't be surprised if some strings were pulled at Harvard as well.
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
Little one? LOL Does that make you feel bigger?

It's as obvious as a cockroach on a wedding cake Bush was mocked by the rest of the world and us right along with him for electing him. My European relatives couldn't believe someone that average could be elected not once but twice. His first election made us the laughing stock of the world.
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WHat you seem to miss is that he is no longer president.

Presidents have beenmocked around the world for a long time with no exceptions.

While you are still stuck baching bush who is long gone Obama is doing an even worse job. Try living in the present.
 
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the 2 military cargo planes, one from the Dutch royal airforce and an Australian plane have just touched down.

This should be the live link

[video]http://nos.nl/nieuws/live/journaal24/[/video]
 
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As soon as both planes have come to a complete halt, the royal family has arrived, there will be the last post from a single trumpet will be sounded and after that 1 minute of silence will be observed.
 
Marine personnel, air force personnel and army personnel are walking up to the planes. They are the teams responsible for removing the coffins from the 2 planes.

While I was out just now, picking up my mother and doing some shopping I could see a lot of houses were flying the Dutch flag at half mast. It was much quieter than usually on the road.
 
Peter King said:
Marine personnel, air force personnel and army personnel are walking up to the planes. They are the teams responsible for removing the coffins from the 2 planes.

While I was out just now, picking up my mother and doing some shopping I could see a lot of houses were flying the Dutch flag at half mast. It was much quieter than usually on the road.
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Our condolences to you and your country!
 
the military crews responsible for removing the coffins are standing at the ready while the first batch of funeral cars has driven on the runway to that the coffins can be transported to the military barracks in Hilversum.

I have heard earlier today why that is happening in Utrecht. There the can place the large refrigeration units in which the remains can be stored while they are identifying them. There is ample room at those military barracks and Hilversum has been chosen because those barracks is the national education center for medical military staff. All the facilities and qualified medical staff is present there to help the special identification unit identify the remains.
 
the landing of the Australian military plane



A short impression of the removal of the coffins and the placing of the coffins in the funeral home cars.

 
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EnigmaO01 said:
Little one? LOL Does that make you feel bigger?

It's as obvious as a cockroach on a wedding cake Bush was mocked by the rest of the world and us right along with him for electing him. My European relatives couldn't believe someone that average could be elected not once but twice. His first election made us the laughing stock of the world.
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Bush was mocked by the Left around the world, and what does that prove? Nothing. Also who are these above average officials your European relatives are electing into office?
 
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Anthony60 said:
Well, don't speak as if it is a fact and you know what his grades were, because we don't. To be clear, I don't know what happened, but I certainly don't take his word for it. The guy admits to being on drugs in high school, and all of a sudden he is this great student at Harvard. Sorry, but there are a lot of blanks that need to be filled in there. This guy has been carried along all his life, so I wouldn't be surprised if some strings were pulled at Harvard as well.
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Again, Magna cum Laude is directly related to grades. We do know that his grades were the highest, because he graduated Magna cum Laude. We don't know what the specific grades are in specific subjects and disciplines, but we do know that his GPA must have been really high, otherwise, get this again, he wouldn't have the Magna cum Laude attached to his degree. This is a FACT. Get informed about how someone achieves Magna cum Laude before you spout any other nonsense.

The guy admits to being on drugs in high school, therefore he couldn't have good grades???? Give me a break! He smoked some pot while in high school. If this disqualified anybody from earning good grades in college, then you'd decimate the grades of the vast majority of students in the nation, because experimenting with some pot in high school is quite common.

By the way, Bush was an alcoholic.
 
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Anthony60 said:
And his grades were... what? Please let us all in on the big secret, since you seem to know.

Oh, wait. Please don't tell me. You are just going to assume that the guy that keeps his grades guarded more fiercely than the gold at Fort Knox is so scholarly. Try and put 2 and 2 together, and if you get 4, you've figured out this guy is a big dummy. Most liberals get 2+2=5. That's how this incompetent got elected.
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I'm not aware if any president releasing his grades so why should he be the first?

Do you even know what grade point average Magna Cum Laude is? You can't be that ignorant or can you?
 
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GreatNews2night said:
Again, Magna cum Laude is directly related to grades. We do know that his grades were the highest, because he graduated Magna cum Laude. We don't know what the specific grades are in specific subjects and disciplines, but we do know that his GPA must have been really high, otherwise, get this again, he wouldn't have the Magna cum Laude attached to his degree. This is a FACT. Get informed about how someone achieves Magna cum Laude before you spout any other nonsense.

The guy admits to being on drugs in high school, therefore he couldn't have good grades???? Give me a break! He smoked some pot while in high school. If this disqualified anybody from earning good grades in college, then you'd decimate the grades of the vast majority of students in the nation, because experimenting with some pot in high school is quite common.
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Usually, that's not the formula for success and the best grades. That aside, you are willing to accept that he earned good grades and was the top of his class, even though they go to great lengths to keep his grades a secret. Doesn't even raise a question in your mind.

At least I am asking, why hide them? Normally, I'd take a persons word for it, unless I had reason not to trust them. Obama? Let's just say we've got that in spades. There's more reason to distrust him than to trust him. I need proof with this guy. Rock solid proof. There is no room for any doubt. He's a proven liar, so there's no trust to be had. How do I know he wasn't just shuffled along, with a little outside, affirmative action, help? Well, we don't know that, and he's not willing to tell.

He's never been exceptional about anything (other than fooling people), he is the bottom of the barrel as president, so I don't think it would be smart to believe that the one thing that he was really, really great at, will be hidden at all costs.
 
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Remember when the US Navy shot down a civilian passenger airliner and refused to apologize for it?
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
Do you even know what grade point average Magna Cum Laude is? You can't be that ignorant or can you?
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Tell me do you know from experiencing it, or did you just look it up?
 
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Anthony60 said:
Usually, that's not the formula for success and the best grades. That aside, you are willing to accept that he earned good grades and was the top of his class, even though they go to great lengths to keep his grades a secret. Doesn't even raise a question in your mind.

At least I am asking, why hide them? Normally, I'd take a persons word for it, unless I had reason not to trust them. Obama? Let's just say we've got that in spades. There's more reason to distrust him than to trust him. I need proof with this guy. Rock solid proof. There is no room for any doubt. He's a proven liar, so there's no trust to be had. How do I know he wasn't just shuffled along, with a little outside, affirmative action, help? Well, we don't know that, and he's not willing to tell.

He's never been exceptional about anything (other than fooling people), he is the bottom of the barrel as president, so I don't think it would be smart to believe that the one thing that he was really, really great at, will be hidden at all costs.
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No, seriously, are you even a college graduate? Because you seem to be quite clueless about it. Let me break it down for you, slowly:

Magna. Cum. Laude. Is. Only. Given. To. Students. With. The. Highest. Grades.
It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. Affirmative. Action.
A. Student. Who. Graduated. With. Magna. Cum. Laude. Has. The. Highest. Grades. In. His. Class.
There's. Never. Been. And. There. Will. Never. Be. Any. Student. Earning. Magna. Cum. Laude. Without. Having. Earned. The. Highest. Grades.
It's. Inbuilt. In. The. System.
Magan. Cum. Laude. Equals. Highest. Grades.
No. Exceptions. No. Affirmative. Action.
Affirmative. Action. Is. For. Admission.
It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. Magna. Cum. Laude. And. Grades.

Got it?
I know you didn't.
College and Magna Cum Laude are concepts WAAAAYYYYY out of your league.
So, be stupid and continue to sustain your impossible point which only proves how ignorant you are.

Again, I don't even support this president in most of what he does, but to pretend he didn't have good grades while we know for a fact that he graduated Magna cum Laude is just PLAIN STUPID AND IGNORANT.

He can be a liar as much as he wants, but the Magna cum Laude system at COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY of all places (by the way, that's where I got *my* degree from - do you even begin to grasp what Columbia University stands for???) is absolutely beyond doubt.
 
Interesting. My link is in Portuguese, so, sorry for those who don't speak it (I do) but it's the only link I saw that reports on this.

Queda do voo MH17 na Ucrânia pode prejudicar Putin - Terra Brasil

Mind you. Brazil, a member of the BRICS, with a government that is extremely sympathetic to Russia, is getting really weary of Putin given the shooting down of MH17.

This doesn't bode well for Putin.

Brazil!!! Very committed BRICS member. Very much against the United States and weary of the European Union. Much more in tune with Russia and China.

Even Brazil is getting fed up with Putin and upset at the MH17 incident.

Putin, soon enough you'll be a pariah.
 
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GreatNews2night said:
No, seriously, are you even a college graduate? Because you seem to be quite clueless about it. Let me break it down for you, slowly:

Magna. Cum. Laude. Is. Only. Given. To. Students. With. The. Highest. Grades.
It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. Affirmative. Action.
A. Student. Who. Graduated. With. Magna. Cum. Laude. Has. The. Highest. Grades. In. His. Class.
There's. Never. Been. And. There. Will. Never. Be. Any. Student. Earning. Magna. Cum. Laude. Without. Having. Earned. The. Highest. Grades.
It's. Inbuilt. In. The. System.
Magan. Cum. Laude. Equals. Highest. Grades.
No. Exceptions. No. Affirmative. Action.
Affirmative. Action. Is. For. Admission.
It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. Magna. Cum. Laude. And. Grades.

Got it?
I know you didn't.
College and Magna Cum Laude are concepts WAAAAYYYYY out of your league.
So, be stupid and continue to sustain your impossible point which only proves how ignorant you are.

Again, I don't even support this president in most of what he does, but to pretend he didn't have good grades while we know for a fact that he graduated Magna cum Laude is just PLAIN STUPID AND IGNORANT.

He can be a liar as much as he wants, but the Magna cum Laude system at COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY of all places (by the way, that's where I got *my* degree from - do you even begin to grasp what Columbia University stands for???) is absolutely beyond doubt.
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To be fair now, each university makes it's own rules on what constitutes Latin honors. And no, Magna Cum Laude is not only given to the students with the highest grades. That may be Columbia's structure, but each makes their own. Basically it means their work was considered exceptional.
 
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clownboy said:
To be fair now, each university makes it's own rules on what constitutes Latin honors. And no, Magna Cum Laude is not only given to the students with the highest grades. That may be Columbia's structure, but each makes their own. Basically it means their work was considered exceptional.
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Trust me. At Columbia, only the students with the highest grades *and* exceptional work get Magna cum Laude. I personally know all who got it in my class (unfortunately, I didn't) and know what their grades were. OK, to be fair, a handful of people went even higher (summa cum laude), but just a few, very few. Magna cum laude was still at least 95th percentile, with summa at 99th. Me, I merely graduated cum laude.
 
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