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Montecresto said:
NO folks ever root for the bad guy, there's just often a disagreement over who the bad guy is.
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Ok, some folks are very confused...I'll buy that. Those folks are usually rootin' for the bad guys
 
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apdst said:
Ok, some folks are very confused...I'll buy that. Those folks are usually rootin' for the bad guys
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You misunderstand, again. Who the bad guy is is subjective.
 
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The General secretery of NATO Anders Rasmunsen is demanding that those responsible will be put on trial.
 
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apdst said:
Something in between lip service and launching a full scale invasion. Take your pick.
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We have put sanctions on Russian oligarchs. Apparently that didn't quite have the teeth we were hoping it would. Personally, I don't see where the territorial integrity of Ukraine is our problem anyway.
 
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The German said:
The General secretery of NATO Anders Rasmunsen is demanding that those responsible will be put on trial.
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The problem with that is if it was the separatists they would not capture them aliv, if it was Russia, Russia would not give anyone to be put on trial.
 
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Radar signaturs confirm that the plane was hit by a missle.
 
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rocket88 said:
We have put sanctions on Russian oligarchs. Apparently that didn't quite have the teeth we were hoping it would. Personally, I don't see where the territorial integrity of Ukraine is our problem anyway.
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Putin was on the phone to the President this morning whining about the latest round being applied, then mentiioned at the end that news was coming on of a "plane crash"...
 
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Biden says 'it was No accident, it was Blown out if the sky'. (CNBC)
He, no doubt, has access to intelligence data.
We may/probably have satellites overhead watching the Ukraine conflict.
295 are dead.
 
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I'm not sure what it says, but I find it interesting that CNN and MSNBC are focused on this story, while Fox is focused on the invasion of Gaza.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Putin was on the phone to the President this morning whining about the latest round being applied, then mentiioned at the end that news was coming on of a "plane crash"...
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Then later, Russian Television (Putin's propaganda network), claimed that the missile was actually meant for Putin's plane.

http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

Then, when they realized how stupid that sounds, they denied it.
 
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:(

154 Dutch victims, 23 Americans, 27 Australians, 5 French, 9 Brits, 23 Malasians and 4 Germans.......

Meanwhile Putin blames the Ukrainian government.... I just want to see him skinned alive.
 
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rocket88 said:
We have put sanctions on Russian oligarchs. Apparently that didn't quite have the teeth we were hoping it would. Personally, I don't see where the territorial integrity of Ukraine is our problem anyway.
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Wait, you're surprised the sanctions didn't work?

23 Americans are dead. I'd say that's our problem.
 
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apdst said:
Wait, you're surprised the sanctions didn't work?

23 Americans are dead. I'd say that's our problem.
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I don't know if surprised is the right word...after all, they've worked wonders with Cuba and North Korea!

23 dead Americans are sort of our problem, but Ukraine's territorial integrity isn't.
 
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According to HuffPo, the plane's black box is on its way to Moscow.

That's not suspicious at all. :doh
 
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Phys251 said:
According to HuffPo, the plane's black box is on its way to Moscow.

That's not suspicious at all. :doh
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Do not worry for a "highly unmanipulated" version of the block box will be shared with the rest of the world!
 
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The German said:
:(

154 Dutch victims, 23 Americans, 27 Australians, 5 French, 9 Brits, 23 Malasians and 4 Germans.......

Meanwhile Putin blames the Ukrainian government.... I just want to see him skinned alive.
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Nothing's going to happen, my griend. Go ahead and prepare for that reality.
 
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Phys251 said:
According to HuffPo, the plane's black box is on its way to Moscow.

That's not suspicious at all. :doh
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It could be. But then it would be suspicious if it were on its way to the people in Kiev, the ones who facilitated the overthrow of the Ukranian government last year and then chased the president out and seized control. Either scenario is less than ideal.
 
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DDD said:
Do not worry for a "highly unmanipulated" version of the block box will be shared with the rest of the world!
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Every party involved in this would have an interest in manipulating the black box data.
 
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The Russian separatists shot down the plane, bragged about it, then found out it was a passenger plane, pulled the photo's and tweets.... the black boxes will go to the Kremlin by way of the puppet separatists. This mystery isn't a mystery, but proof will be difficult if not impossible to come by. The blame game started right away... after a week of muddying up the water, we won't know who or what happened and likeliest answer may be interstellar aliens shot down the plane.
 
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rocket88 said:
I don't know if surprised is the right word...after all, they've worked wonders with Cuba and North Korea!

23 dead Americans are sort of our problem, but Ukraine's territorial integrity isn't.
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North Korea has nukes, ya know?

If the missle came from a Russian battery, then yes, this our problem.
 
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apdst said:
Wait, you're surprised the sanctions didn't work?

23 Americans are dead. I'd say that's our problem.
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It is not certain that there are 23 Americans under the dead. So far there is no certainty that any Americans are under the known passengers.

There were at least 154 Dutch, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians, 6 from the UK, 4 Germans, 4 Belgians, 3 passengers from the Philippines and 1 Canadian. Of 47 passengers it is not certain where they are from. But so far no US passengers but that could still change.
 
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beefheart said:
CRUE CAB said:
Why would you fly over that area?
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It is a normal flight route, lots of planes over that area every day.

http://www.flightradar24.com/51.92,24.94/5

See for yourself, go to flightradar24.com and look at traffic over that area.
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Simple economics, quickest route between Europe and S.E.Asia.

Regarding the Buk missile launcher, one analyst pointed out that an experienced operator would be able to tell that he was targeting a civilian craft. Recently Kiev apparently ordered its pilots not to fly below 31,000ft. My suspicion backed by the reported boasts from the separatists is that someone thought he'd struck lucky hitting a large transport plane.
 
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And most of them will have been families going on summer holiday
 
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