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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine [/71]

    I see the Bush bashers have run out of any valid arguments pertinent to the thread.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    Yep, I read yesterday a financial analysis saying that if Europe is truly committed to a trade and financial blockade war against Putin (like Obama is calling for), in spite of all the catastrophic predictions about Europe's dependence on Putin's natural gas, Europe will win this war hands down and rather fast, and Russia's economy will be thoroughly destroyed much before Europe feels any sizable effects, indicating that Putin would blink way sooner, or be ousted by outraged former allies (the Russian oligarchs).

    I thought this evaluation was a bit optimistic... [and no, unfortunately I didn't keep the link - short of going back to it by my browsing history - and I browsed dozens and dozens of sites yesterday and don't feel like going through all the trouble to find the link right now]... but it is interesting to have a contrary opinion to all the fearmongers in Europe who think they can't touch Mr. Putin or else the natural gas pipes will shut down and Europe will crumble to pieces.

    After all, Europe is a very diverse economy, while Putin is a mono-economy based almost exclusively (in every way that matters in macro-economic terms) on selling energy to European buyers.

    Oh sure, Putin would try to sell elsewhere... but there isn't any infrastructure to send the goodies to other buyers in short notice.

    The source predicted a hugely damaging collapse of the Russian economy with the domestic market rebelling against Putin, regardless of how far away Russian elections are scheduled (2018). The source said that the only thing stopping this from happening is the excessive timidity and fear of European leaders.
    Presumably the same people saying this are the ones insisting vociferously that weather was the problem in Q1, that Portugal is not facing serious contagion from Espirito Santo, and that China's economy will be just fine. Maybe they are saying this with a little support from the people who assured everyone that the red-bearded guy in "Georgia" is totally the same person as the black and gray-bearded guy in Slovyansk. They may even be the same ones who said the War in Iraq would be over in six months. Key thing to remember is that if something is important, most people are not going to be honest or objective about it. Those in the West who want Russia under boot will insist they have all the power and can sanction away. People who deviate from that line of defense will be attacked.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Huh? Top of his class? Did he release his transcripts last night or something? They have gone to great pains to keep his grades secret. I guess they don't want to brag (LOL!). Well, we know he was in a drug induced daze in high school, somehow that got him to Harvard. Can you say "affirmative action"?
    Hey, guess what? Bush went there too. And, he also has an MBA.
    Wow dude you really are ignorant. You don't graduate magna cum laude with bad grades or get elected to the the harvard review. Do you know anything about college or law school? Anything at all? You really think he could fake that? Really?

    I'll bet you think his birth certificate is a forgery too right?

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What climbed up your but tonight?? So is your opinion just an asshole too?
    Nope all you have is conjecture. I call it the way I see it.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine [/71]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I see the Bush bashers have run out of any valid arguments pertinent to the thread.

    Riiiiiiiiiight.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Nope all you have is conjecture. I call it the way I see it.
    Oh, I see now, wink.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Wow dude you really are ignorant. You don't graduate magna cum laude with bad grades or get elected to the the harvard review. Do you know anything about college or law school? Anything at all? You really think he could fake that? Really?
    And his grades were... what? Please let us all in on the big secret, since you seem to know.

    Oh, wait. Please don't tell me. You are just going to assume that the guy that keeps his grades guarded more fiercely than the gold at Fort Knox is so scholarly. Try and put 2 and 2 together, and if you get 4, you've figured out this guy is a big dummy. Most liberals get 2+2=5. That's how this incompetent got elected.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Presumably the same people saying this are the ones insisting vociferously that weather was the problem in Q1, that Portugal is not facing serious contagion from Espirito Santo, and that China's economy will be just fine. Maybe they are saying this with a little support from the people who assured everyone that the red-bearded guy in "Georgia" is totally the same person as the black and gray-bearded guy in Slovyansk. They may even be the same ones who said the War in Iraq would be over in six months. Key thing to remember is that if something is important, most people are not going to be honest or objective about it. Those in the West who want Russia under boot will insist they have all the power and can sanction away. People who deviate from that line of defense will be attacked.

    The same problem exists for Obama today, as was there for Bush. The challenge is how to win the hearts and minds of radical Islam.

    What is the best approach?

    The West seems to believe that keeping Sunnis fighting Shiites is the best strategy.

    Just keep arranging conflicts between Sunni Muslims and Shiite Muslims, and don't worry about bringing them into the world of love and respect.

    Isis hates minorities.


    "ISIS has ordered government workers to stop giving rations to Christians and Shiites in Mosul, according to a report by Younes Thonon for ankawa.com. The official in charge of distributing rations in the Rifaq neighborhood said he had received orders from ISIS to cut the rations. Mr. Fadel Younis, the official in charge for the Kifaat neighborhood, said that he had received a similar order and a threat from ISIS, and was warned that if he gives rations to Christians and Shiites he will be charged and prosecuted according to sharia law. - See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/07/islamic-state-isis-orders-government-workers-stop-feeding-christians-mosul.html/#sthash.tDOmLnI6.dpuf"

    Islamic State (ISIS) Orders Government Workers To Stop Feeding Christians In Mosul | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs


    Maybe ISIS had nothing to do with Ukrainian Separatists. Maybe this post if off topic. Maybe the Ukrainian Separatists are Russia's way of handling its own Muslim challenges.



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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    That's really kind of silly. It didn't take "mere hours" to find the audio of the Russian pilots and investigate and determine a response, especially back in 1983.
    And this is 2014. It's called technology.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Dutch newspaper "Telegraaf" has posted a short video made by someone with a smart phone (I would assume) shows a large number of funeral cars slowly starting to arrive at Eindhoven airport to transport the remains of the passengers of flight MH17.

    More and more news comes in about the national mourning day.

    All trains in the Netherlands will stop for 1 minute during the nationwide minute of silence. The society of Millers has asked all of their members to set the windmills into the mourning position.

    All flights out of Eindhoven airport will be shut down this afternoon. No civilian flight will be able to land or depart from Eindhoven airport. The companies that fly from Eindhoven will have to stop flying between 15.45 and 18.00 local Dutch time.

    Governor-General Peter Cosgrove will be representing Australia when then planes carrying the remains of the MH17 passengers will land.

    All across the Netherlands, festivals, events, county fairs, etc. etc. etc. are either being toned down by not playing music and festivities are cancelled.

    Across the freeways, the Dutch highway authorities are writing on the electronic message boards that people are advised not to stop on the hard shoulder of the freeway during the minute of silence but that they are advised to stop at a parking spot along the freeway at one of the numerous gas stations or public rest areas.

    Churches will be ringing their church bells during the day but the ministry has asked the churches to do this especially in the 5 minutes before the first plane with the victims will land.

    The public tv stations of the Netherlands will not be showing any commercials today. Also, on the Dutch national radio stations there will also be no commercials.

    All TV networks have agreed that when the first planes with the victims will be landing, that they will all switch their programming to the live feed of that arrival. The same will go for the Dutch radio networks.

    The television networks have also decided not to show amusement programs. The radio stations have made public that no quizzes will be aired today or other celebratory events, all the music played today will be toned down a notch (no snappy summer hits, etc). And around the arrival time of the airplanes the music that is going to be aired will even be more solemn.

    Schiphol airport will be suspending all departures and landings for the one minute memorial silence this afternoon.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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