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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine [/71]

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    I meant Lord of Planar's links.
    You may have a point. Indeed current MSM journalism in the US is a joke - both sides of the spectrum.

    Back to the matter at hand, I wonder what the rebels have to hide:

    'Industrial scale' tampering of evidence at MH17 site: Australia

    Interesting; the Australian prime minister is actually a right wing guy who up to recently was a Putin sympathizer... Now he talks of a cover-up and tampering with evidence.
    My bet is that the Aussie is far keener on NATO and the US than he is on Putin and Russia.

    He dances with the one that brung him.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Was it a lie that Reagan didn't say anything for 4 days?

    LOL
    What is it with you Obamabots that you think that things happening today can be excused by simply finding something 30 years ago and equating it to that? You must not think much of the leadership of the goof in office today when you have to make so many excuses for him constantly.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is it with you Obamabots that you think that things happening today can be excused by simply finding something 30 years ago and equating it to that? You must not think much of the leadership of the goof in office today when you have to make so many excuses for him constantly.
    Was reacting to people posting that Obama didn't react fast enough. Sorry you missed it.

    But...last time the russians shot down a jet, this is what happened.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Was reacting to people posting that Obama didn't react fast enough. Sorry you missed it.

    But...last time the russians shot down a jet, this is what happened.
    The last time an airliner was shot down by Russia, we didn't give Russia chance after chance to come clean, and ask pretty please either....When we spoke we led from the front....Not this pansy ass way of talking today...
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The last time an airliner was shot down by Russia, we didn't give Russia chance after chance to come clean, and ask pretty please either....When we spoke we led from the front....Not this pansy ass way of talking today...
    You're saying this airliner was shot down by Russia?? I'd say you're hate for Obama has galvanised your bias.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're saying this airliner was shot down by Russia?? I'd say you're hate for Obama has galvanised your bias.
    If not by Russia directly, than with support of Russia, yes...These systems are not something that can just be walked up to and push a button and away you go....It takes training and support.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The last time an airliner was shot down by Russia, we didn't give Russia chance after chance to come clean, and ask pretty please either....When we spoke we led from the front....Not this pansy ass way of talking today...
    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're saying this airliner was shot down by Russia?? I'd say you're hate for Obama has galvanised your bias.
    But he's right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    The shrapnel impact patterns on the aircraft skin proves it was a anti-aircraft missile, and who in the area has / had those types of systems? Russia.

    We also know that it takes 6 months of training to operate the system, which the Rebels don't have, and we also know that there are ex-Russian Military and ex-Russian intelligence officers as part of the rebel forces (probably assigned there by Putin).

    So what more do you want to know about all this before reaching a conclusion? How much more evidence and logic do you need?
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If not by Russia directly, than with support of Russia, yes...These systems are not something that can just be walked up to and push a button and away you go....It takes training and support.
    The link I posted shows it was likely a SA-11 with a fragmentary-warhead. If the article is correct, it is plausible the shrapnel took out the pilots, and not the plane. It could have flown unpiloted for a hundred miles or more before impact. It could have been shot down over the Ukraine controlled area...

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    But he's right.



    The shrapnel impact patterns on the aircraft skin proves it was a anti-aircraft missile, and who in the area has / had those types of systems? Russia.

    We also know that it takes 6 months of training to operate the system, which the Rebels don't have, and we also know that there are ex-Russian Military and ex-Russian intelligence officers as part of the rebel forces (probably assigned there by Putin).

    So what more do you want to know about all this before reaching a conclusion? How much more evidence and logic do you need?
    Are you sure the Ukrainians don;t have any?

    What makes you so positive?

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