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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Just responding with the truth...people criticized Obama for not responding...it took a few hours, not 4 days. Hypocrisy...yep.

    ODS is as bad as BDS
    Yeah, How's he responding? By saying what exactly?

    Oh, and don't tell me about ODS, you can't even admit your support for Obama by proclaiming your true lean.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, How's he responding? By saying what exactly?

    Oh, and don't tell me about ODS, you can't even admit your support for Obama by proclaiming your true lean.
    He is responding by doing what he's been told to do--blame Russia and rattle his saber.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, How's he responding? By saying what exactly?

    Oh, and don't tell me about ODS, you can't even admit your support for Obama by proclaiming your true lean.
    Just keep digging. Saint Ronnie was laying on the beach for 4 days untill his aides kicked his ass.

    You really can't handle anything to balance the ODS rantings. LOL it is pretty hilarious.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    He is responding by doing what he's been told to do--blame Russia and rattle his saber.
    Told by whom? And whom else should be blamed?
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Just keep digging.
    Digging? I am not digging anything...

    Saint Ronnie was laying on the beach for 4 days untill his aides kicked his ass.
    Yes, and was roundly criticized for not saying something sooner, but I'd like to compare and contrast the difference in actual reactions and what will be done...On the one hand you have Reagan at the time painting with bold language, and no fear in calling Russia what it was for that act, "barbarians"....Also, he demanded that Russia come out with the truth, and pay reparations to the families of the flight, and to put a cherry on top, he used the incident at the time to further his agenda of Nuclear disarmament. Now, look at today. You have a President afraid to even call out the Russian's for being behind this at all....No comparison.

    You really can't handle anything to balance the ODS rantings. LOL it is pretty hilarious.
    You call MediaMatters "balance"? Anything but....

    Bottom line is that this incident, along with the myriad of others only serves to show what a weak President we have at the moment.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Digging? I am not digging anything...



    Yes, and was roundly criticized for not saying something sooner, but I'd like to compare and contrast the difference in actual reactions and what will be done...On the one hand you have Reagan at the time painting with bold language, and no fear in calling Russia what it was for that act, "barbarians"....Also, he demanded that Russia come out with the truth, and pay reparations to the families of the flight, and to put a cherry on top, he used the incident at the time to further his agenda of Nuclear disarmament. Now, look at today. You have a President afraid to even call out the Russian's for being behind this at all....No comparison.



    You call MediaMatters "balance"? Anything but....

    Bottom line is that this incident, along with the myriad of others only serves to show what a weak President we have at the moment.
    Well, you agreed with the fact that MM stated about Reagan not responding....LOL
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    Really? Please explain then why are the rebels hindering the international "crime scene investigation"? What do they have to hide, if as you suggest Ukraine's military are the culprits for downing the plane?
    Pete summed it up pretty good, but I would add that the rebels must be just as concerned with the prospect of any potential investigators having an intention to find the rebels guilty regardless of what evidence they find or that they will "find" evidence.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Pete summed it up pretty good, but I would add that the rebels must be just as concerned with the prospect of any potential investigators having an intention to find the rebels guilty regardless of what evidence they find or that they will "find" evidence.
    Just came off the radio listening to NPR interview a BBC reporter on the ground near the crash sight who said that every single witness she has talked to has told the same story. They heard fighter jets and looked out the windows or came outside and saw two jets shoot that plane out of the sky. NPR asked her then quite pointedly, was there anybody you've talked to on the ground there that had a different version, and she said no.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Avoiding it now. But there are places in the globe that planes fly over, they just do. It all depends on the route and the stage length, and your range. Malaysian did nothing wrong. They flew the route according to the NOTAM.

    Airlines are keeping clear of the area now, bad PR not to. But, how many planes shot down in the last 60 years? Divide that by the number of flights.

    Malaysia flew what they were supposed to.
    So in your opinion it is NOTAM who is at fault for not advising planes to avoid the area?

    The FAA shut down all US flights going through the area without much problem, and currently all airlines are avoiding the area which means that they do not HAVE to fly through that corridor so either Malasyian Airlines or NOTAM are at fault here.

    It doesn't matter if they do it everyday this flight proves that flying over a war zone is idiotic. It may have only been 1 out of a 1000 planes that day that got shot down, it doesn't change the fact had the plane avoided a known warzone then 300 people would not have died.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    this may be the most credible account to date:


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