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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    what do the maidan protests have to do with news of the crash?!

    could you discuss that somewhere else?

    I am sure there are threads covering that.
    Very little. One could even argue that the end of the Cold War left Ukraine with numerous unresolved issues that have played out since then.

    The reality is that the pro-Russia separatists very likely shot the plane down. Their actions deserve scrutiny and those responsible should be held to account. At the same time, it is plausible that Russia might have supplied the surface-to-air missile system to the separatists, though it is at least as likely that it was captured earlier based on previous news reports in June.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Very little. One could even argue that the end of the Cold War left Ukraine with numerous unresolved issues that have played out since then.

    The reality is that the pro-Russia separatists very likely shot the plane down. Their actions deserve scrutiny and those responsible should be held to account. At the same time, it is plausible that Russia might have supplied the surface-to-air missile system to the separatists, though it is at least as likely that it was captured earlier based on previous news reports in June.
    It requires training to use that missile system. How was that accomplished without the Russians? It always comes back to them.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    listening to anderson cooper on CNN.

    he made the comparison of the katrina dead and this incidence as if they were the same in recovering the bodies of the dead.

    idiot!!

    we care, those rebel bastards don't care.
    Go Vols

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    None of the countries you mentioned are going to do anything because their either afraid or know it won't do any good. And you know why there are Russian militias preventing them? It's because of the revolution. See how it all goes back to that?
    You mean it all goes back to Putin who is funding this counter "revolution". The majority of the Ukraine supports the new Govt. and Putin is sending former Russian military and KGB to try and overthrow it or at least make it too risky for European investment.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    If said government were slaughtering people in the street, then yes... yes I would. Are you saying you wouldn't?
    If occupy had done the things that the Kiev protesters were doing and our government fired upon them as our National Guard and Marines have done, you would support the overthrow of our government by angry mobs of Americans, firing upon our presidents motorcade as he fled??
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    doesnt matter what they think.

    what we europeans, the malaysians, australians and indonesians think now matters.

    i hope to see several countries, including the netherlands and malaysia force their russians embassedors out of the country by the end of this week.

    because as you are talking events long past, russian militias have prevented investigators from gaining free access to the crash sight.
    Perhaps that's because they don't trust them with the evidence in their hands anymore than you trust the evidence in Moscow's hands!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It requires training to use that missile system. How was that accomplished without the Russians? It always comes back to them.
    Well sure, everyone knows that the Russians are giving aid to the Russian separatists, even as the US is giving aid to the syrian separatists that are trying to overthrow president Assad.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If occupy had done the things that the Kiev protesters were doing and our government fired upon them as our National Guard and Marines have done, you would support the overthrow of our government by angry mobs of Americans, firing upon our presidents motorcade as he fled??
    Of course. I may disagree with them, even think their complete morons, but their still Americans. Any President that would open fire and slaughter hundreds of Americans who are protesting, has already forsaken his duty of the office. Why, are you saying you wouldn't do it if they were Tea Partiers?

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Perhaps that's because they don't trust them with the evidence in their hands anymore than you trust the evidence in Moscow's hands!
    But there's a difference. The Russians are trying to cover up their involvement to save from the embarrassment, while the US just wants to establish who did it. They did the same thing with the Korean Flight back in the 80's, holding the black box for over 20 years as I recall. We didn't do that when we shot down that flight (name escapes me) because we aren't afraid of the truth.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You mean it all goes back to Putin who is funding this counter "revolution". The majority of the Ukraine supports the new Govt. and Putin is sending former Russian military and KGB to try and overthrow it or at least make it too risky for European investment.
    I'm not arguing for the Russians, you can check any of my recent posts to see that. But what I'm saying is that all of this stems back to the protests and ensuing revolution. Consequently, that's one reason I think it's laughable to blame anyone other than Russia backed rebels as the missile was launched from within territory they control.

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