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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, it's OUR fault? LOL!
    Not exclusively, there was other western support and encouragement for the overthrow of the Ukrainian government. All Though you would never admit it, had the Ukrainian government decided in the end (last October) to go with the EU and had told Moscow thanks but no thanks, and had Moscow facilitated the overthrow of that government, installing people that they then recognised as the legitimate government, YOU, along with every other patronising American, the UK and the EU all would be near hysterical right now!!
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Why do I think there is a fair chance that the US is involved or complicit? Why do I think there is a fair chance that Israel is involved or complicit?

    Well, because both those government's have a pretty good track record at deception and false flag operations that involve killing humans, that's why.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not exclusively, there was other western support and encouragement for the overthrow of the Ukrainian government. All Though you would never admit it, had the Ukrainian government decided in the end (last October) to go with the EU and had told Moscow thanks but no thanks, and had Moscow facilitated the overthrow of that government, installing people that they then recognised as the legitimate government, YOU, along with every other patrolling American, the UK and the EU all would be near hysterical right now!!
    You saying the Ukrainians wanted to be a proxy for Russia then? And didn't want to be more connected with the West? Because if so, I'd love to see your sources on that one.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Final numbers:

    192 passengers were from the Netherlands
    44 passengers were from Malaysia
    27 passengers were from Australia
    12 passengers were from Indonesia
    9 passengers were from the United Kingdom
    4 passengers were from Germany
    4 passengers were from Belgium
    3 passengers were from the Philippines
    1 passenger was from Canada
    1 passenger was from New Zealand
    1 passenger was from the United States of America
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine [/71]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    (CNN) -- A Malaysia Airlines flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has crashed in eastern Ukraine, Russian news agency Interfax reported Thursday.

    From some of the airline geek places I go to:

    Flight MH17
    777-300

    Video (can't be 100% sure if legit)

    Those Russkies sure like shooting down aircraft don't they? KAL # 007.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    You'll be happy to know I've already created that thread to indulge your conspiracy theory FF fetish. Have fun.

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    I'm so grateful. But it's way to early to tell IMO.

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Ukrainian rebels (Ukrainian separatists) = Ex Russian military & Ex Russian Intelligence? Yeah, So I think so. Even if not, very suspicious that level of expertise with what has been described as a complex system to operate.
    Ok, but not Russian uniformed military proper from Russian soil, right? At any rate, the separatists may well have done it, but if so, it was a case of mistaken identity. Every other aircraft they brought down was military. Furthermore, intentionally targeting is hugely injurious to their cause, would bring global condemnation and diminish Moscow's ability to continue to support them. Can you not imagine Russia's words to these separatists, if they found out that a civilian plane was intentionally targeted. I'm sure that even if the Russian government was satisfied that they mistaking lay shot it down that they would still be raising hell with them for their failure to properly identify it, and creating a big mess.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Why does everything have to be the Americas fault? Is it so hard to believe that people might not want to be just a proxy state for Russia?



    You do realize that the rebels already took credit for the attack, just thought it was a Ukrainian military plane. Why does some people think Russia is the good guy in all this?
    In this case it was US/UK/EU, as I pointed out earlier.
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    One of the dead is Joep Lange. Mr. Lange was a medical researcher who was the founder of the "PharmAccess Foundation", a not-for-profit organisation based in Amsterdam which aims to improve access to HIV/AIDS therapy in developing countries, and he served as chairman until his death.

    He also used to serve as president of the International Aids Society. He was a professor of Medicine at the University of Amsterdam.

    Joep Lange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    You saying the Ukrainians wanted to be a proxy for Russia then? And didn't want to be more connected with the West? Because if so, I'd love to see your sources on that one.
    The Ukraine issue didn't just begin last October. There was essentially a tug of war over Ukraine and between the West and Moscow. Negotiations, proposals and offers on both sides for several years. In the end the government of Ukraine decided they would get a better deal with Moscow. That's when the **** hit the fan. A slighted and disgruntled West provoked and facilitated a coup to topple the Ukrainian government, installing a pro Western government, and Russia called bull****, leading to their annexation of Crimea to secure their assts and people's there as well as their support of the Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine.
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