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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    International condemnation is something that you dont want to face as a country
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    What effect do you think that it would have on the separatist rebels in the Ukraine?

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Pretty stupid, especially since the FAA had prohibited US flights over that area. Apparently you didn't know about this either.





    The FAA's Notice Prohibiting Airline Flights Over Ukraine - James Fallows - The Atlantic



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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Extending the invitation isn't the same as accepting them as a member. As I said, the objective is to get Russia to back off and to get the separatists to deescalate their military actions. The best outcome is a diplomatic solution but in order to give that a chance we need to get the shooting stopped.
    The best way would have been to have a democratic change of power in Ukraine rather than what we had when the pro-western parties decided to throw the legitimate president out of office to then form a government with extreme right support who then took actions that put the new government at a ramming course with a large portion of the people living in the pro-Russian part of Ukraine.

    The best option would be a federal state of Ukraine because you cannot put this genie back in the bottle with aggression and repression (and that goes for both sides of this conflict).

    And you do not have to tell me that the shooting has to stop now, I know that, I am feeling that it has to stop.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    It been reported (previously by the Russian Military) that this type of antiaircraft system takes about 2 years to learn how to use. I'd say these so called separatists are also known as "Spetsnaz"
    I think you're probably right.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine [/71]

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Obama may be forced to give a speech and the WH may even create a hashtag.
    Why do you people bring Obama into everything? Why don't you give it a rest - just this once. You can continue trashing him on everything else.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Reagan did not start a war on the downing of KAL007, a flight which originated in NY and was shot down by the USSR. No one is going to be stupid enough to start a nuclear war over the downing of an airliner, as egregious an attack that might be... there isn't much that a rational person could do....
    The Far Right, and this poster in particular, has a really short memory about things like KAL007. That was during the reign of King Ronnie, who as we all know, could do no wrong.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As I stated earlier: this shootdown is a byproduct of Obama's impotency.
    Yeah, you were wrong earlier. You still are. This is no more a byproduct of Obama's 'impotency', than the Russians shooting down KAL007 (with an American congressman aboard) was a byproduct of Reagan's senility.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Doesn't matter. Separatist have been using manpads to down Ukraine Air Force planes, not civilian planes. You don't go 4 months of shooting down military aircraft fly sub 25,000ft to hitting a jumbo set at 33,000ft overnight. Separatist own the skies over that region with MANPADs. Why fire up a BUK system stolen from Ukraine?

    MH17 was off it's normal route. It normally flies south (Crimea) over Black Sea in areas absolutely controlled by Ukraine or Russia.

    Also if it was separatist or Russia.. US intel would have leaked or some Congressional critter leaked the evidence the missile came from them (Separatist or Russia) already.. yet none.. that should give you a clue that over the next few days the story will change a bit and outrage will die away. We'll come to find it was an "accident" with no blame to be passed.
    And you would be wrong. But then, you've been continuously wrong about Ukraine, so why should this incident be any different.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What effect do you think that it would have on the separatist rebels in the Ukraine?
    Like the Russian's who control them, I don't think they give a damn.
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    Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    This Malaysian Airlines is a joke. How do you *don't* know the nationality of 41 of your passengers???
    How do you don't know how many people are on board? They first reported 295, now 298.
    When I buy an international air ticket in the United States I have to enter my passport number and nationality.
    Some of those could be non-rev's (employees flying free) other airline employees, pass riders, deadheading crew, unaccompanied minors, etc. MH is spending most of their time contacting families, setting up hotels, etc. A crash is a hectic thing, especially with this many people on board and all the particulars.
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