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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    So many things for these guys to stand up to Obama about. Where have they been for the past six years?
    Gen. Amos is about to retire, he should have grown a pair a few years ago.

    But he at least stopped Marines from adopting wearing girly hats that Valerie Jarrett was behind of.

    Gen. Amos is no Gen. Mattis who was just recently fired by Obama and Obama didn't even have one testicle to inform Gen. Mattis that he was fired, he had to find out from the press. Any Generals who stands up for America,the military and objects of Obama using the military for leftist social engineering walks the plank.

    This is the second Marine General in just two weeks to send up a red flag about Obama, the other Marine General was Gen. Kelly. (See active thread in the DP military forum)

    When are the other Navy, Army and Air Force flag officers going to grow a pair ?

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    We have seen the photos of Americans scrambling to leave Vietnam. We know terrorists will win the war in Iraq, with the United States not even having a drop of oil they were accused being the reason they were there. In Afghanistan they were being defeated by a third world bunch of goat herders, a deserter is the hero, and the main subject of conversation in any possible conflict is 'exit strategy'.

    Do people who intend to win ever talk of an 'exit strategy'? Only today's Americans, as far as I can tell.
    We were leaving Vietnam because the South Vietnamese government couldn't keep things together. When we left Iraq, things had returned to pre-Iraq war levels in terms of violence. And we've killed a hell of a lot more of the terrorist in Afghanistan than they've killed us. We're not the ones getting in bed with the Taliban. Ultimately, you can only help people that want help, and clearly these places don't. We achieved our objectives, and that's all we can do.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Someone clearly doesnt understand the recent history of the withdrawal process that happened in 2008-2011..
    The Obama Doctrine ?

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Gen. Amos is about to retire, he should have grown a pair a few years ago.

    But he at least stopped Marines from adopting wearing girly hats that Valerie Jarrett was behind of.

    Gen. Amos is no Gen. Mattis who was just recently fired by Obama and Obama didn't even have one testicle to inform Gen. Mattis that he was fired, he had to find out from the press. Any Generals who stands up for America,the military and objects of Obama using the military for leftist social engineering walks the plank.

    This is the second Marine General in just two weeks to send up a red flag about Obama, the other Marine General was Gen. Kelly. (See active thread in the DP military forum)

    When are the other Navy, Army and Air Force flag officers going to grow a pair ?
    Is it really the place of the military though to question a sitting president. I would argue that the military should stay out of political matters to show they aren't just for one group of Americans or not.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the ISIS threat is new....
    Same enemy to society, they just go by a diffrent name.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Is it really the place of the military though to question a sitting president. I would argue that the military should stay out of political matters to show they aren't just for one group of Americans or not.
    That is the job of all members of the JCS, to tell the CnC the facts.

    Only an idiot be he a President/CnC, flag officer, field grade officer or company grade officer surrounds himself with "yes men."
    Obama is an idiot and is also an incompetent CnC.

    Unlike the other military chief commanders, the Commandant of the Marine Corps wears a second hat, "Corps, Country and God" and to defend and protect the Marine Corps customs and traditions. Gen. Amos has been accused of not filling the boots of the Commandants that served before him. But he seems to have grown a pair recently.

    Gen. Mattis walked the plank when he put the Corps and America before social engineering and America's national security before Obama.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That is the job of all members of the JCS, to tell the CnC the facts.

    Only an idiot be he a President/CnC, flag officer, field grade officer or company grade officer surrounds himself with "yes men."
    Obama is an idiot and is also an incompetent CnC.

    Unlike the other military chief commanders, the Commandant of the Marine Corps wears a second hat, "Corps, Country and God" and to defend and protect the Marine Corps customs and traditions. Gen. Amos has been accused of not filling the boots of the Commandants that served before him. But he seems to have grown a pair recently.

    Gen. Mattis walked the plank when he put the Corps and America before social engineering and America's national security before Obama.

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    I'm not arguing that he shouldn't raise his concerns. My problem is that he makes those statements public, which undermines the authority of the CnC.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah well sorry, Americans aren't interested in decades of occupation of Iraq. And Bush was wrong to invade Iraq, that's been established sooooooo many times.
    Come on Montecresto, in hindsight it's a no brainer to say we were wrong to invade Iraq. But President Clinton had eight years to deal with Saddam Hussein and Bush just followed the Iraq Liberation Act that President Clinton signed in to law.

    And Americans have a problem with any war that lasted more than a few years and it always takes Americans around twenty years after a war before they get that feeling again to kick some ass.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'm not arguing that he shouldn't raise his concerns. My problem is that he makes those statements public, which undermines the authority of the CnC.
    It doesn't undermine the authority of the JCS, According to former Secretary of Defence Gates and Panetta, Obama ignored the advice of his military advisers. Gates went further to say that the Obama White House don't trust the military. Even Admiral, McRaven said that the military has been left out of the loop when it comes to national security issues.

    Do you know who's in charge of America's national security ? Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice and incompetent people who couldn't make it in the private sector.

    I think what finally caused two four star generals to go public with in two weeks was the four hundred thousands illegal aliens who have surged across our borders since April, over 50,000 of them juveniles that the Obama administration still claims to be secured. That's what caused Gen. Kelly to go public last week. And even Sec. of Def. Hagel agreed with Gen. Kelly and Obama and his White House still ignores Kelly.

    Just look at Obama's failed foreign affairs policies, just compare the world today to 2008. It's one big ****ing basket case.

    Putin plays geopolitical chess while Obama plays checkers and makes a stupid comment that geopolitics became obsolete at midnight on January 1'st 2000. Oh yeah, John Kerry also quoted Obama.

    Obama has been a national security risk since 2009.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It doesn't undermine the authority of the JCS, According to former Secretary of Defence Gates and Panetta, Obama ignored the advice of his military advisers. Gates went further to say that the Obama White House don't trust the military. Even Admiral, McRaven said that the military has been left out of the loop when it comes to national security issues.

    Do you know who's in charge of America's national security ? Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice and incompetent people who couldn't make it in the private sector.

    I think what finally caused two four star generals to go public with in two weeks was the four hundred thousands illegal aliens who have surged across our borders since April, over 50,000 of them juveniles that the Obama administration still claims to be secured. That's what caused Gen. Kelly to go public last week. And even Sec. of Def. Hagel agreed with Gen. Kelly and Obama and his White House still ignores Kelly.

    Just look at Obama's failed foreign affairs policies, just compare the world today to 2008. It's one big ****ing basket case.

    Putin plays geopolitical chess while Obama plays checkers and makes a stupid comment that geopolitics became obsolete at midnight on January 1'st 2000. Oh yeah, John Kerry also quoted Obama.

    Obama has been a national security risk since 2009.
    I'm fine with retired generals and those in the national security team speaking out about the problems this White House has with the military. My issue is the fact that when you pick a side and wear the uniform, and you have a sitting general opposing a democratically elected president, that's a dangerous precedent and is how coups happened. If you want to speak out, retire and then say whatever you want.

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