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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    did you like it when top generals spoke out against Bush?

    if Bush signed the withdrawal orders, which he certainly did, why did we elect Obama to get us out of Iraq?
    Because McCain would have escalated the war.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Because McCain would have escalated the war.
    Did he say anything to that effect or is that speculation? I would like to believe McCain's personal experiences with war would make him more cautious about the costs of eternal warfare.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I got a flash for you...we have 1000 troops there now and counting.
    Yes I know, that's disappointing as well. Though I suspect you're delighted.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    Bush's mistake wasn't invading. Iraq was like Vietnam as far as thorns in our side. Except we had the military to crush Saddam and forever rid the world of a monster. The Iraqi people wouldn't go back to that life like black people wouldn't go back to slavery.
    Bush's mistake was in not enforcing the idea that the undertaking would be something along the lines of post-WW2 Japan and Germany. we would have to stay for DECADES, not years, to pacify that country and build a stable foundation. Liberals were just salivating form day 1 to get the hell out of there, no matter the long term consequences. He should have been honest and readied the people for the long trudge ahead. Instead he made it easier for the snake oil libs to come in at the first opportunity and and tear the entire operation down, piece by piece. but as long as they are deemed "right" at the end of the story, what the hell do they care. Someone else will deal with the chaotic fallout.
    Yeah well sorry, Americans aren't interested in decades of occupation of Iraq. And Bush was wrong to invade Iraq, that's been established sooooooo many times.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm sure he doesn't give a **** at this point, but General Amos just might find himself retiring a bit sooner than planned.

    Obama doesn't like it one bit when his Generals criticize him. He's like a little boy that way.

    "I don't like the way you talk about me! I'll get you for that!"
    Presidents fire generals that cross them or embarrass them. What a partisan statement.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Did he say anything to that effect or is that speculation? I would like to believe McCain's personal experiences with war would make him more cautious about the costs of eternal warfare.
    Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran, ring a bell!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    coward?

    he's not the kind of Officer I prefer ( flyboys are very different leaders than grunts), but he's definitely no coward.
    He used Dakota Meyer as a rhetorical human shield to protect himself from criticism. I'll sling out the "coward" charge against this guy.

    What he's saying isn't exactly all that novel or original. It is pretty much what everyone in the national security sector already knows.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Did he say anything to that effect or is that speculation? I would like to believe McCain's personal experiences with war would make him more cautious about the costs of eternal warfare.
    McCain backed the Surge in '07-08; a time when his own son was deployed as a Marine Corps Infantryman, so he knew what it could potentially cost him. So, you know, that makes him, like, an evil war-mongerer and stuff

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    Maybe you do not realize this but the military is not the ones who get us into wars. There are also very few in the military in positions of power who want to go to war.
    I think your view of the military is based a whole lot more on liberal fantasy than reality.
    yeah - the military never lobbies for military action..... or maybe you did not read the OP?
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah well sorry, Americans aren't interested in decades of occupation of Iraq. And Bush was wrong to invade Iraq, that's been established sooooooo many times.
    ..and you do write the history books, so who am i to argue.

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