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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    The American people wisely want nothing to do with war in the Middle East. Lets keep it that way. The military is often like a kid who simply has toys they want to play with. One way to avoid that is not keep giving them so many new toys.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Good thing Obama appointed him...

    That is about the only good thing this guy has done.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes I did. I would also have no problem with top brass speaking out against Obama. I want them to challenge a president on such things. That said, in this particular case, I think what Amos is saying is wrong! As you can see right here on this board, there isn't much GOP support for withdrawing from Iraq, and Obama is being hugely criticised for it. Nevertheless, it can't be known that had a republican won the election that he would have withdrawn. Anyway, significant numbers of Americans were sick of Iraq, wanted out and felt that Obama would do it. Took a little longer than we would have liked, but.
    well, I don't agree with Amos, but I don't think he's wrong.... it's his job to speak for his Marines... Marines who, by and large, aren't too peachy about watching us throw Iraq to the jihadist assholes.
    I have 2 Iraqi vets ( son and godson) sitting in my living room right now that agree with him... they're pissed that their hard fought gains are being pissed away.

    they would hate it if I were calling the shots.. but that's neither here nor there.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The Iraq story was never an accomplishment or a victory. And people elected Obama to (amongst other reasons) get us the hell out of Iraq.

    I got a flash for you...we have 1000 troops there now and counting.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The American people wisely want nothing to do with war in the Middle East. Lets keep it that way. The military is often like a kid who simply has toys they want to play with. One way to avoid that is not keep giving them so many new toys.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Bush's mistake wasn't invading. Iraq was like Vietnam as far as thorns in our side. Except we had the military to crush Saddam and forever rid the world of a monster. The Iraqi people wouldn't go back to that life like black people wouldn't go back to slavery.
    Bush's mistake was in not enforcing the idea that the undertaking would be something along the lines of post-WW2 Japan and Germany. we would have to stay for DECADES, not years, to pacify that country and build a stable foundation. Liberals were just salivating form day 1 to get the hell out of there, no matter the long term consequences. He should have been honest and readied the people for the long trudge ahead. Instead he made it easier for the snake oil libs to come in at the first opportunity and and tear the entire operation down, piece by piece. but as long as they are deemed "right" at the end of the story, what the hell do they care. Someone else will deal with the chaotic fallout.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The American people wisely want nothing to do with war in the Middle East. Lets keep it that way. The military is often like a kid who simply has toys they want to play with. One way to avoid that is not keep giving them so many new toys.
    Maybe you do not realize this but the military is not the ones who get us into wars. There are also very few in the military in positions of power who want to go to war.
    I think your view of the military is based a whole lot more on liberal fantasy than reality.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    I'm sure he doesn't give a **** at this point, but General Amos just might find himself retiring a bit sooner than planned.

    Obama doesn't like it one bit when his Generals criticize him. He's like a little boy that way.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Then who ever made that plan, and obama carried it out, was wrong. They are ignorant of history and are condemned to repeat it - like you.
    Ignorant of history was going into that quagmire in the first place.

    If only someone in the Bush administration had seen this coming.


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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I got a flash for you...we have 1000 troops there now and counting.
    Yeah, and that should be zero. But this guy wants us to "get in the fight." Easy to say on your way out the door, send other men and women to die there. And for what?
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