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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It depends how much they pushed it.....There doesn't seem to be a problem now........We have close to 1,000 troops in Iraq now.
    That doesn't answer my question. And these 700 troops that are there are to protect our embassy and diplomats coming and going from the airport etc. Iraq doesn't want regular soldiers stationed in their country long term with immunity to prosecution when they commit crimes. A quite reasonable expectation.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We have 1,000 people in Iraq and counting at the moment. I will repeat and old saying that you lefties always forget...."Freedome isn't Free" my left wing friend.
    Remember, I am retired Navy. I did my time, and I'm proud of my service. Been there, done that, helped make the doggone t-shirt.

    Freedom indeed isn't free...but one also has to remember that just because we can go into some foreign nation and do something doesn't mean that we should do so. Bush 41 knew the difference and made the right decision when the Right (which included me at the time) was strongly in favor of driving on to Baghdad. Bush 43 did not know the difference, and made the wrong decision.
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    Where were all these "we must stay in Iraq for all eternity" Republicans when Bush signed the treaty to leave Iraq?

    Were they too busy focusing on the political theatre of that shoe throwing incident to realize what was actually being announced at said shoe throwing announcement? Yes I think they were indeed being suckered by that bit of political theatre.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Russia versus Obama, a laugher.
    China versus Obama, a laugher.
    We are because of democrats becoming the yellow chicken laughing stock of the world. Early withdrawal has never been a formula for success.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I believe it's because there is a lot of sympathy for the goals of these radical groups. It's true they have the better organization going in, (partly because we weren't willing to back more secular parties) but it's also true that they had a lot of support from the general population. That answer the question?
    I partially disagree with you but I appreciate you mustering up a decent answer.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That doesn't answer my question. And these 700 troops that are there are to protect our embassy and diplomats coming and going from the airport etc. Iraq doesn't want regular soldiers stationed in their country long term with immunity to prosecution when they commit crimes. A quite reasonable expectation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It depends how much they pushed it.....There doesn't seem to be a problem now........We have close to 1,000 troops in Iraq now.
    It's a lot easier to accept help from US Troops when half your country is controlled by psychopathic killers.

    The truth of the matter is that Maliki and the rest of their government would of liked US troops to stay. Obama however wasn't open to the possibility of any more than a few thousand at most. When Maliki and others weighed that number of troops with the political consequences of allowing US troops to stay, they weren't willing to take the political hit for it. And so if the Right wants to blame Obama because he didn't want to commit 20,000 troops, then they can and there probably right. If the Left wants to say that the Iraqis didn't want to troops there, then their right too. Guess that's politics.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Obama Administration hasn't, as far as I can tell, cut aid to anyone anywhere.

    Recall that the election of the MB was mired in controversy and the Egyptian people rose up soon after.
    In this case though, Obama is technically (or did as I think they have had their elections already) breaking the law.

    Law says the U.S. is required to cut aid after coups.

    I guess just chock up another law that Obama refused to follow I guess.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    In this case though, Obama is technically (or did as I think they have had their elections already) breaking the law.

    Law says the U.S. is required to cut aid after coups.

    I guess just chock up another law that Obama refused to follow I guess.
    We didn't cut off aid to Ukraine after the coup last winter either. But I suspect that you're ok with it there.
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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We didn't cut off aid to Ukraine after the coup last winter either. But I suspect that you're ok with it there.
    The law states we can't support a military coup, Ukraine wasn't. Neither was Egypt the first time around. But when the military took over, then that's when aid (according to law) should of been cut.

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    Re: Top Marine to Obama: Get in the Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The law states we can't support a military coup, Ukraine wasn't. Neither was Egypt the first time around. But when the military took over, then that's when aid (according to law) should of been cut.
    I'm having a bit of a chuckle on that one HB. Since when has law interfered with the US support of a coup that would serve US political or economic interest. Are you even aware of the numbers of coups our government has sponsored?

    Here's one, there's plenty more, too.




    The era of CIA-supported coups dawned in dramatic fashion: An American general flies to Iran and meets with "old friends"; days later, the Shah orders Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh to step down. When the Iranian military hesitates, millions of dollars are funneled into Tehran to buy off Mossadegh's supporters and finance street protests. The military, recognizing that the balance of power has shifted, seizes the prime minister, who will live the rest of his life under house arrest. It was, as one CIA history puts it, "an American operation from beginning to end," and one of many U.S.-backed coups to take place around the world during the second half of the 20th century.

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...a_backed_coups
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