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California Split Into Six New States?

If L.A. County, San Francisco and Marin County could be expelled from California, California wouldn't be so bad as it is today.

Draper did some research, he's using the San Gabriel River as the dividing line from eastern and western L.A County. West of the San Gabriel River would be part of West California while San Berdo, Riverside, Imperial, Orange and San Diego counties become South California. South California gets all of the major military bases, guns, and American patriots. Libs already have to keep a low profile in these counties except for Imperial County.

It would make it real difficult for illegal aliens to make their way through South California to West California which will obviously become a sanctuary state.

I don't know how West California can survive when it gets most of America's illegal aliens and 50% of the West Californians will be legally classified as being illiterate of functional illiterates and the majority unable to speak English.

The Silicon Valley state will be completely dependent on Microsoft.

Lets see, South California, Central California, Jefferson states will definitely be red states.

West California will definitely be blue because they will be overpopulated with stupid people.
Central California would definitely be a red state. I know, I live here. The illegals, however, would flock here as this is where the agricultural jobs and the employers willing to hire them live as well.
 
Even Obama, famous as the “high-IQ” president, has made geographical blunders. In April 2012, when he attended the Summit of the Americas, a dispute arose between Argentina and the U.K. over the ownership of the Malvinas Islands (British Falkland Islands). Obama expressed the neutral position of the U.S. on this issue. Perhaps to convey friendliness toward Argentina, he tried to refer to the islands using their Argentinean name, Malvinas. Unfortunately, he misspoke, instead calling them the Maldives Islands, a nation in the Indian Ocean and former British colony. This slip of the tongue can be described as shooting oneself in the foot: It caused the Argentinians even greater displeasure.

Many remember when U.S. President Barack Obama incorrectly recited the presidential oath, which consists of only 35 short words, back in January 2009 during his first inauguration.

Even worse than geographical errors are those involving someone's name.

Regarded as the 20th century’s greatest spiritual teacher and success guru, American writer Dale Carnegie once said, “One of the simplest, most obvious and most important ways of gaining good will [is] by remembering names.”

But it seems Obama has not read Carnegie’s book.

In November 2012, during his visit to Myanmar, Obama declared the country’s “importance,” yet he still did not do his homework. While meeting with Myanmar President Thein Sein, Obama called him “President Sein,” following the Western custom of using the "latter" name in formal address. In fact, “President Thein Sein” would have been the appropriate title. When meeting Myanmar’s opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi, Obama gave her an American-style affectionate kiss, but during a subsequent news conference, he mispronounced her name several times as “Aung Yan Suu Kyi,” making Suu Kyi, who stood beside Obama, rather embarrassed. The U.S. media pronounced that Obama’s errors would generate unease among the Burmese and cause them to wonder if the U.S. president really placed that much importance on their country.

Of course, mispronouncing names is not a patented American trait. In June 2010, at the G-8 Summit held in Canada, Naoto Kan, Japanese prime minister at the time, successively mispronounced the names of then South Korean President Lee Myung-bak and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, both of whom he had met previously. He also substituted the English phrase “emerging companies” for “emerging countries” and erroneously said G-7 instead of G-8. Obama, who also attended the summit, could not even say Naoto’s name and simply referred to him as “the new prime minister.” Interestingly, two years later, in December 2012, newly elected Japanese Prime Minster Shinzo Abe spoke with Obama on the phone and, afterward, unexpectedly told the person next to him that he had been speaking with U.S. President George W. Bush. Although he immediately corrected his mistake, Abe still attracted media ridicule.

On May 29, 2012, Obama held a ceremony at the White House to award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to the late Jan Karski in recognition of his historical achievements: Karski was a Polish-American who first exposed the atrocities of the Holocaust. Obama said Karski personally went to “the Warsaw Ghetto and a Polish death camp” and witnessed the massacre. Obama’s use of the term “Polish death camp” immediately provoked strong protests in Poland. The Polish government believed that Obama’s wording would cause people to think that Poland was responsible for the Holocaust. The correct reference should have been to “German concentration camps in Nazi-occupied Poland.”

Polish President Komorowski said that Obama’s words “do not reflect views or intentions of our American friend,” but maintained that his choice of words was “unfair and painful.” Komorowski also sent a letter to Obama, who later replied, “I regret the error.”

Watching America   :   » A Slip of the Tongue Leads to Obama’s Verbal ‘Bomb’

And then there was that good old time Obama had at Mandela's funeral. WOW!

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Too bad we can't just somehow merge Los Angeles and Than Fwanthithco into one state, and keep the rest of California as another. The former would become the very worst wrong-wing [solid digestive waste]hole that the world has ever seen, but decoupled from it, the rest of California would probably do very well.
 
Central California would definitely be a red state. I know, I live here. The illegals, however, would flock here as this is where the agricultural jobs and the employers willing to hire them live as well.

I'm very well aware of the two Californias of today.

But unlike today where the California legislature has the welcome mat set up at the border welcoming all illegal aliens and gang bangers, A South California wouldn't have a welcome mat. The illegal alien would have to slither through a state that recognised the rule of law.
 
Aside from potshots at Obama or Bush, would a split actually be feasible and how?
 
Even Obama, famous as the “high-IQ” president, has made geographical blunders. In April 2012, when he attended the Summit of the Americas, a dispute arose between Argentina and the U.K. over the ownership of the Malvinas Islands (British Falkland Islands). Obama expressed the neutral position of the U.S. on this issue. Perhaps to convey friendliness toward Argentina, he tried to refer to the islands using their Argentinean name, Malvinas. Unfortunately, he misspoke, instead calling them the Maldives Islands, a nation in the Indian Ocean and former British colony. This slip of the tongue can be described as shooting oneself in the foot: It caused the Argentinians even greater displeasure.

Many remember when U.S. President Barack Obama incorrectly recited the presidential oath, which consists of only 35 short words, back in January 2009 during his first inauguration.

Even worse than geographical errors are those involving someone's name.

Regarded as the 20th century’s greatest spiritual teacher and success guru, American writer Dale Carnegie once said, “One of the simplest, most obvious and most important ways of gaining good will [is] by remembering names.”

But it seems Obama has not read Carnegie’s book.

In November 2012, during his visit to Myanmar, Obama declared the country’s “importance,” yet he still did not do his homework. While meeting with Myanmar President Thein Sein, Obama called him “President Sein,” following the Western custom of using the "latter" name in formal address. In fact, “President Thein Sein” would have been the appropriate title. When meeting Myanmar’s opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi, Obama gave her an American-style affectionate kiss, but during a subsequent news conference, he mispronounced her name several times as “Aung Yan Suu Kyi,” making Suu Kyi, who stood beside Obama, rather embarrassed. The U.S. media pronounced that Obama’s errors would generate unease among the Burmese and cause them to wonder if the U.S. president really placed that much importance on their country.

Of course, mispronouncing names is not a patented American trait. In June 2010, at the G-8 Summit held in Canada, Naoto Kan, Japanese prime minister at the time, successively mispronounced the names of then South Korean President Lee Myung-bak and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, both of whom he had met previously. He also substituted the English phrase “emerging companies” for “emerging countries” and erroneously said G-7 instead of G-8. Obama, who also attended the summit, could not even say Naoto’s name and simply referred to him as “the new prime minister.” Interestingly, two years later, in December 2012, newly elected Japanese Prime Minster Shinzo Abe spoke with Obama on the phone and, afterward, unexpectedly told the person next to him that he had been speaking with U.S. President George W. Bush. Although he immediately corrected his mistake, Abe still attracted media ridicule.

On May 29, 2012, Obama held a ceremony at the White House to award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to the late Jan Karski in recognition of his historical achievements: Karski was a Polish-American who first exposed the atrocities of the Holocaust. Obama said Karski personally went to “the Warsaw Ghetto and a Polish death camp” and witnessed the massacre. Obama’s use of the term “Polish death camp” immediately provoked strong protests in Poland. The Polish government believed that Obama’s wording would cause people to think that Poland was responsible for the Holocaust. The correct reference should have been to “German concentration camps in Nazi-occupied Poland.”

Polish President Komorowski said that Obama’s words “do not reflect views or intentions of our American friend,” but maintained that his choice of words was “unfair and painful.” Komorowski also sent a letter to Obama, who later replied, “I regret the error.”

Watching America **:** » A Slip of the Tongue Leads to Obama’s Verbal ‘Bomb’

And then there was that good old time Obama had at Mandela's funeral. WOW!

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WTF does Mandela's funeral have to do with California splitting into 6 states?
 
I'm very well aware of the two Californias of today.

But unlike today where the California legislature has the welcome mat set up at the border welcoming all illegal aliens and gang bangers, A South California wouldn't have a welcome mat. The illegal alien would have to slither through a state that recognised the rule of law.
Yes, and would wind up in rather conservative and Republican Central California, where they would be welcomed as cheap labor to bring in the crops.

The illegal alien problem isn't just a creature of the Democrats.
 
Yes, and would wind up in rather conservative and Republican Central California, where they would be welcomed as cheap labor to bring in the crops.

The illegal alien problem isn't just a creature of the Democrats.

Everything, EVERYTHING that is wrong with America is a creature of the Democratic Party!
 
WTF does Mandela's funeral have to do with California splitting into 6 states?

Oh...about the same thing as these Bush brain-farts.

I dunno. Bush was pretty good at brain-farts. In fact, he was the King.

"The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th." --Washington, D.C., July 12, 2007

"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." --on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina

"They misunderestimated me." --Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

"This is an impressive crowd -- the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite -- I call you my base." --at the 2000 Al Smith dinner

"Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter." --in parting words to world leaders at his final G-8 Summit, punching the air and grinning widely as those present looked on in shock, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." --Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." --Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002


I could do this all day......................... :lamo
 
If you divide Cali. into seven states that would give us 56 states, since it would only add 6 states, because it already is a state.


But, yeah, the pres is stupid for making a slip up :roll:

Corn dog people are pretty smart after all.:2wave: Go Tigers.
 
Oh...about the same thing as these Bush brain-farts.

Considering that was a reply to your nonsequitur about "57 states" that was a legitimate reply. Nelson Mandela's funeral or the fact that the Danish PM wanted a selfie with Obama is just adding nonsense on to nonsense.

If you have nothing to add other than bashing Obama, stick to the Con echo chambers.
 
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This is why they want it. It certainly would not be good for the majority of California's citizens to separate the most profitable areas from the least.

Actually it would be good. I live in the Central Valley. We depend on two things Ag and oil. Sacramento's policies have been screwing us hard. It would free us up to get our water and enforce our water contracts we have in place now. It would ease the regs for oil drilling and finally get out from the BS electrical rate structure the state imposed on us. We have a 4 tier rate structure in the central valley and other areas. LA and SF have a 1 tier rate. Their tier one rate is the same as our tier one rate. Our tier four rate is over double the tier one rate. Most people in the Central Valley and other areas pay in part tier 4 rates. Single tier rates would lower our bills by 50%.
 
Considering that was a reply to your nonsequitur about "57 states" that was a legitimate reply. Nelson Mandela's funeral or the fact that the Danish PM wanted a selfie with Obama is just adding nonsense on to nonsense.

If you have nothing to add other than bashing Obama, stick to the Con echo chambers.

You don't take 'selfies' sitting in the audience at a funeral...nor do you cut up and belly laugh at a funeral. Look at everyone else's face in those photos. Those are serious mourners...including the dagger staring Michelle Obama. But then, her husband and the buxom blonde are just having a GOOD OLD TIME.

Get off that crap.
 
Actually it would be good. I live in the Central Valley. We depend on two things Ag and oil. Sacramento's policies have been screwing us hard. It would free us up to get our water and enforce our water contracts we have in place now. It would ease the regs for oil drilling and finally get out from the BS electrical rate structure the state imposed on us. We have a 4 tier rate structure in the central valley and other areas. LA and SF have a 1 tier rate. Their tier one rate is the same as our tier one rate. Our tier four rate is over double the tier one rate. Most people in the Central Valley and other areas pay in part tier 4 rates. Single tier rates would lower our bills by 50%.

I'm sure there would be upsides, but is that going to completely balance out the costs of creating a new state government, police force, tax and regulation structures, using a much smaller tax base?

The economist in the article says "Central California" would become the poorest state in the nation.

While it's presently far from ideal, state spending supports people throughout your region, and most of that money comes from the other regions.
 
I wish Florida would become its own country.

That's about as likely to happen as California being split up into 6 states.
 
I'm sure there would be upsides, but is that going to completely balance out the costs of creating a new state government, police force, tax and regulation structures, using a much smaller tax base?

The economist in the article says "Central California" would become the poorest state in the nation.

While it's presently far from ideal, state spending supports people throughout your region, and most of that money comes from the other regions.

Those are already in place a) B) That tax base would rapidly expand. As poorest in the nation at first yes probably. But wouldn't be for long that's for sure. We are strategically located in CA. We are a major transport hub and corridor, we are the biggest ag producers in the nation bar none, and we have major oilfields and one of the biggest potential oilfields in the nation. If we became a separate state, silicon valley would be in our rearview mirror so to speak. We would end up a very wealthy well off state. State spending is at the discretion of the STATE who likes to **** us. Notice the electrical rates. And high speed rail. Both of which **** us and hard. We would prefer the opportunity to make our own way, we are sitting pretty with what we got if we can our hands untied.
 
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