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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Considering that was a reply to your nonsequitur about "57 states" that was a legitimate reply. Nelson Mandela's funeral or the fact that the Danish PM wanted a selfie with Obama is just adding nonsense on to nonsense.

    If you have nothing to add other than bashing Obama, stick to the Con echo chambers.
    You don't take 'selfies' sitting in the audience at a funeral...nor do you cut up and belly laugh at a funeral. Look at everyone else's face in those photos. Those are serious mourners...including the dagger staring Michelle Obama. But then, her husband and the buxom blonde are just having a GOOD OLD TIME.

    Get off that crap.
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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Actually it would be good. I live in the Central Valley. We depend on two things Ag and oil. Sacramento's policies have been screwing us hard. It would free us up to get our water and enforce our water contracts we have in place now. It would ease the regs for oil drilling and finally get out from the BS electrical rate structure the state imposed on us. We have a 4 tier rate structure in the central valley and other areas. LA and SF have a 1 tier rate. Their tier one rate is the same as our tier one rate. Our tier four rate is over double the tier one rate. Most people in the Central Valley and other areas pay in part tier 4 rates. Single tier rates would lower our bills by 50%.
    I'm sure there would be upsides, but is that going to completely balance out the costs of creating a new state government, police force, tax and regulation structures, using a much smaller tax base?

    The economist in the article says "Central California" would become the poorest state in the nation.

    While it's presently far from ideal, state spending supports people throughout your region, and most of that money comes from the other regions.

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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I wish Florida would become its own country.
    That's about as likely to happen as California being split up into 6 states.

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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    That's about as likely to happen as California being split up into 6 states.
    Sadly

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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    I'm sure there would be upsides, but is that going to completely balance out the costs of creating a new state government, police force, tax and regulation structures, using a much smaller tax base?

    The economist in the article says "Central California" would become the poorest state in the nation.

    While it's presently far from ideal, state spending supports people throughout your region, and most of that money comes from the other regions.
    Those are already in place a) B) That tax base would rapidly expand. As poorest in the nation at first yes probably. But wouldn't be for long that's for sure. We are strategically located in CA. We are a major transport hub and corridor, we are the biggest ag producers in the nation bar none, and we have major oilfields and one of the biggest potential oilfields in the nation. If we became a separate state, silicon valley would be in our rearview mirror so to speak. We would end up a very wealthy well off state. State spending is at the discretion of the STATE who likes to **** us. Notice the electrical rates. And high speed rail. Both of which **** us and hard. We would prefer the opportunity to make our own way, we are sitting pretty with what we got if we can our hands untied.
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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Those are already in place a) B) That tax base would rapidly expand. As poorest in the nation at first yes probably. But wouldn't be for long that's for sure. We are strategically located in CA. We are a major transport hub and corridor, we are the biggest ag producers in the nation bar none, and we have major oilfields and one of the biggest potential oilfields in the nation. If we became a separate state, silicon valley would be in our rearview mirror so to speak. We would end up a very wealthy well off state. State spending is at the discretion of the STATE who likes to **** us. Notice the electrical rates. And high speed rail. Both of which **** us and hard. We would prefer the opportunity to make our own way, we are sitting pretty with what we got if we can our hands untied.
    It could well happen that way. Right now, parts of the Central Valley are being compared to Appalachia, with the latter coming off the richest. A lot of that is the numbers of illegals who have no education and depend on farmwork to survive.
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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    Divided they stand? Billionaire in push to carve up California into six states | Fox News

    If they could do seven rather than just six it would make Obama's comment about visiting all 57 states semi-correct...retroactively....
    What a surprise... Another billionaire using his fortune to push a giant conservative political narrative. This will fail because it takes a whole lot more than their own state to approve the split.
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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    You don't take 'selfies' sitting in the audience at a funeral...nor do you cut up and belly laugh at a funeral. Look at everyone else's face in those photos. Those are serious mourners...including the dagger staring Michelle Obama. But then, her husband and the buxom blonde are just having a GOOD OLD TIME.

    Get off that crap.
    As has already been hashed over about those photos, the selfie was taken by the "blonde," who happens to be the Prime Minister of Denmark (IIRC). I've been at plenty of memorials/funerals where people laughed - when my grandfather died, my cousins and I enjoyed a few laughs remembering him.

    If Obama had refused the Danish PM, you'd be bitching about him "throwing our ally under the bus" and refusing a kind request for a photo.

    So basically, you don't even know anything about the photo, just "OBAMA BAD!! HULK SMASH!"


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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

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    Everything, EVERYTHING that is wrong with America is a creature of the Democratic Party!
    I've been told that many times.

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    Re: California Split Into Six New States?

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    I've been told that many times.
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