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    New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    New Mother Charged With Assault for Using Meth During Pregnancy - NBC News

    My thoughts are, if she hadn't been using illegal drugs to start with, she wouldn't have been arrested.

    And can we talk about the arrest, and not turn this into a pro-life/pro-choice argument?
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

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    New Mother Charged With Assault for Using Meth During Pregnancy - NBC News

    My thoughts are, if she hadn't been using illegal drugs to start with, she wouldn't have been arrested.

    And can we talk about the arrest, and not turn this into a pro-life/pro-choice argument?
    I think it is going to be hard to separate the her drug use vs. pro-life/pro-choice. I say that because she is being charged with assault and not with possession. The charge itself will spark the debate.
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

    Yeah, true. I just think that there is more to the conversation than that.
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

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    New Mother Charged With Assault for Using Meth During Pregnancy - NBC News

    My thoughts are, if she hadn't been using illegal drugs to start with, she wouldn't have been arrested.

    And can we talk about the arrest, and not turn this into a pro-life/pro-choice argument?
    Guessing someone is up for reelection? What is next, arresting women for having sex during pregnancy because the baby is a victim of underage sex? How about taking a glass of wine? Or riding a bike? Or living in a major city where there is a lot of pollution?
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

    How about she be charged with more serous charges like attempted murder etc?

    How about whether she should ever be able to be that child's mother again?

    I've had my run-in with meth in my life and it causes you to do messed up stuff but, once you know you're going to be a parent, that should be enough reason to seek help and beat your addiction.
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

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    New Mother Charged With Assault for Using Meth During Pregnancy - NBC News

    My thoughts are, if she hadn't been using illegal drugs to start with, she wouldn't have been arrested.

    And can we talk about the arrest, and not turn this into a pro-life/pro-choice argument?
    Personally, I think this is a waste of resources. Great job creator for attorneys and judges. I can see removing the child from her care, which I assume is going to happen anyway, but prosecuting her for assault? What purpose does that serve?
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    New Mother Charged With Assault for Using Meth During Pregnancy - NBC News

    My thoughts are, if she hadn't been using illegal drugs to start with, she wouldn't have been arrested.

    And can we talk about the arrest, and not turn this into a pro-life/pro-choice argument?
    Two Days? and they arrest and charge her. How did they establish addiction? The article only said baby tested positive. It's stupid law anyway. It's not about helping/rehabbing a person, it's about private, for-profit prison system.
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

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    New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]Lets make this easy for the OP and make this official. Do not make this about pro-life/pro-choice. There is indeed more to talk about with this story than pro-life/pro-choice.
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

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    Guessing someone is up for reelection? What is next, arresting women for having sex during pregnancy because the baby is a victim of underage sex? How about taking a glass of wine? Or riding a bike? Or living in a major city where there is a lot of pollution?
    Let me tell you a story Pete.

    I had a relationship with a woman back in my 20s who ended up getting pregnant and wanted to give the baby up for adoption.

    She had a meth habit that extended well into the pregnancy. When the baby was born, she has blisters all over her body and several other reactions to the meth use.

    It wasn't an occasional glass of wine or living in unhealthy air quality, it was purposeful. You might be addicted to a substance but, you're fully aware of the fact that you're pregnant and that you are still using.

    Had that law been in effect back then, I would absolutely think she should have been charged.

    FWIW it's not a local law. 38 states have some sort of fetal protection laws on the books.

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

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    Let me tell you a story Pete.

    I had a relationship with a woman back in my 20s who ended up getting pregnant and wanted to give the baby up for adoption.

    She had a meth habit that extended well into the pregnancy. When the baby was born, she has blisters all over her body and several other reactions to the meth use.

    It wasn't an occasional glass of wine or living in unhealthy air quality, it was purposeful. You might be addicted to a substance but, you're fully aware of the fact that you're pregnant and that you are still using.

    Had that law been in effect back then, I would absolutely think she should have been charged.

    FWIW it's not a local law. 38 states have some sort of fetal protection laws on the books.

    Fetal Homicide State Laws
    Is this new mother a regular meth user? Any evidence of this?

    But my point is that these laws are scary as hell and have been abused by prosecutors looking for reelection. Case in point.. Rennie Gibbs. Charged with 1. degree murder after losing her baby to a still birth in the 36th week. The cops found out that she used cocaine.. once while pregnant. There was no link between that and the death of the baby, but 4 years after the tragic still birth, she was arrested and charged with murder. It took 4 years on top of that for the case to be thrown out... And this is not the only example.

    These laws are leading down the road to El Salvador like laws that put women in prison for miss-carriages. Is that what you want? That any environmental aspect can basically make a pregnant woman a criminal if she has a miss-carriage?
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