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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Clearly you don't see an issue with her drug use during pregnancy. So you can stop now. You told me every thing I need to know about your opinion based on your desire to legalize dope and your pro abortion stance.
    Sad to think that liberalism has no bounds of decency when it comes to the unborn.
    Oh My God

    You really cannot understand the written word at all.

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    She'd be just as much of a loser if she was abusing prescription drugs.
    CC you are just embarassing yourself.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Tell ya what, you win. Meth is a hellava drug and should be injected by all pregnant mothers. Baby dies, so what? Baby born with defects and or other issues? So what? The government will continue to care for them and their scum mothers.
    Goodness, all you want to do is create strawmen to beat the crap out of. I think I'll bow out of this discussion.

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It is a game for me.

    Sadly you are proving with every post that it is not for you.
    You win, you are dumb as a box of rocks thinking nothing is wrong with doing meth compared to a "glass of wine" during pregnancy. You win.

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Goodness, all you want to do is create strawmen to beat the crap out of. I think I'll bow out of this discussion.
    What strawman did I create? I never even used a "what if". Only gave my real world opinion. I am not the one that tried to equate meth to a glass of wine.

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You win, you are dumb as a box of rocks thinking nothing is wrong with doing meth compared to a "glass of wine" during pregnancy. You win.
    Heh heh, I never wrote that nor implied it. And it's all there in black and white. Quoted more than once in a (failed) effort to help you.


    Dont dump YOUR box of rocks as you stick your tail between your legs reading my signature below...in green.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Oh My God

    You really cannot understand the written word at all.



    CC you are just embarassing yourself.
    Really? YOU are the one defending a meth addict. Not me.

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Heh heh, I never wrote that nor implied it. And it's all there in black and white. Quoted more than once in a (failed) effort to help you.


    Dont dump YOUR box of rocks as you stick your tail between your legs reading my signature below...in green.
    Don't worry about my tail, you win. Meth use during pregnancy is clearly fine as with you. Yea, you are will versed in drug use during pregnancy, you got it all figured out you think she is well within her rights.
    I mean its HER body right?

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy

    Monroe County arrests mother of drug-positive infant under new l - WRBL
    Multiple arrests for meth use in the past. Yea, real upstanding citizen and mother.
    "Loyola has a history of meth-related arrests in Monroe County. She's currently in jail without bond".

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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What strawman did I create? I never even used a "what if". Only gave my real world opinion. I am not the one that tried to equate meth to a glass of wine.
    No one on here defended meth use. We all see a HUGE problem with drug use (including alcohol) during pregnancy. The only question is what is the best way to have FEWER addicted babies. I don't think charging them with manslaughter helps, not unless there are treatment options and manslaughter is reserved for cases where someone can PROVE reckless, continuous and damaging use, and even then I'm not sure what we accomplish by jailing that mother for perhaps 10 years. We fill a prison bed, which is nice, and get sweet vengeance, but we've got prisons full of drug users and use and abuse of illegal drugs hasn't seemed to slow a whole lot so long sentences don't appear to be an effective way to lessen drug addictions and the problems that come with it. That's what the evidence suggests. And I see no reason why long jail terms would work better with pregnant women than it does with all other addicts.

    And I brought up wine because in my world, the addiction of choice is to alcohol and I see far more women with drinking problems or who have admitted to abusive drinking while pregnant than I've seen addicted to meth. The ones I've talked to didn't need a 10 year jail sentence, they needed treatment for an addiction. And frankly, while the woman is pregnant, if treatment (for alcohol, meth, heroin, cocaine, oxy, speed, etc.) doesn't work, and it often does NOT work, I'm OK with incarceration to protect the child, except it makes more sense to lock them in a treatment facility than an ordinary prison.
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    Re: New Mother Charged with Assault for using Meth during Pregnancy[W:8]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    No one on here defended meth use. We all see a HUGE problem with drug use (including alcohol) during pregnancy. The only question is what is the best way to have FEWER addicted babies. I don't think charging them with manslaughter helps, not unless there are treatment options and manslaughter is reserved for cases where someone can PROVE reckless, continuous and damaging use, and even then I'm not sure what we accomplish by jailing that mother for perhaps 10 years. We fill a prison bed, which is nice, and get sweet vengeance, but we've got prisons full of drug users and use and abuse of illegal drugs hasn't seemed to slow a whole lot so long sentences don't appear to be an effective way to lessen drug addictions and the problems that come with it. That's what the evidence suggests. And I see no reason why long jail terms would work better with pregnant women than it does with all other addicts.

    And I brought up wine because in my world, the addiction of choice is to alcohol and I see far more women with drinking problems or who have admitted to abusive drinking while pregnant than I've seen addicted to meth. The ones I've talked to didn't need a 10 year jail sentence, they needed treatment for an addiction. And frankly, while the woman is pregnant, if treatment (for alcohol, meth, heroin, cocaine, oxy, speed, etc.) doesn't work, and it often does NOT work, I'm OK with incarceration to protect the child, except it makes more sense to lock them in a treatment facility than an ordinary prison.
    Lock up or sterilize mothers who bare addicted children. That fixes the first problem you mentioned.

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